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kelseyfrog 3 hours ago

If I was a professor, I don't think I'd want students submitting AI generated work. Yet, here we are.

Students had and still have the option to collectively choose not to use AI to cheat. We can go back to written work at any time. And yet they continue to use it. Curious.

Wowfunhappy 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Students had and still have the option to collectively choose not to use AI to cheat.

Individuals can't "collectively" choose anything.

This test is given to the entire class, including people who never touched AI.

kelseyfrog 2 hours ago | parent [-]

What are you talking about?

Students could absolutely organize a consensus decision to not use AI. People do this all the time. How do you think human organizations continue to exist?

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ted_dunning 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

So what if the students used and AI not to cheat, but to produce good content that the student understood well.

Wouldn't that be a fine outcome?

anonymous908213 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Ah yes, collective punishment. Exactly what we should be endeavouring for our professors to do: see the student as an enemy to be disciplined, not a mind to be nurtured.

I know we've had historical record of people saying this for 2000 years and counting, but I suspect the future is well and truly bleak. Not because of the next generation of students, but because of the current generation of educators unable to successfully adapt to new challenges in a way that is actually beneficial to the student that it is supposed to be their duty to teach.

throwaway7783 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Since when did exams become punishment? Aren't they a reflection of what you have learnt as imperfect as they are?

anonymous908213 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The subject is "AI exams", not "exams". GGP expressed that they believe that AI exams would be an extremely unpleasant experience to have your future determined by, something I find myself in agreement with. GP implied that students deserve this even though it's unpleasant because of their actions, in other words they agree that this is unpleasant but are okay with it because this is punishment for AI cheating. (And which is being applied to all students regardless of whether they cheated, hence the "collective" aspect of the punishment.)