> Incoming HN downvotes because I'm not using the coolest latest technology.

"IPv6 just turned 30" - literally the first part of the post title.

The rest of the post is equally baffling, you are just clinging to a legacy bottleneck (NAT) that was never designed to be a security feature

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ok123456 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> never designed to be a security feature

It's virtually always used with some firewall rules, so it sort of is? It's just dogma to insist that there are no security benefits to having a single choke point for traffic.

	▲	p_l a minute ago \| parent \| next [-]
		The firewall is very much a separate thing, and part of the efforts to make v6 properly available for home customers was introducing somewhat standard firewall setup that replicates what people think NAT does for security (and what NAT definitely does not do, if only by virtue of being broken by the classic connect/connect vs connect/listen connection)
	▲	bigstrat2003 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		The firewall is what is providing security, not NAT. And you can equally easily have a firewall in front of an IPv6 network.

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alt227 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

NAT superceded ipv6 quite plainly, and it is obvious what technology won out.

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umanwizard 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Er… not at all. NAT and ipv6 are both very widely used, with IPv6 adoption steadily growing over time.

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alt227 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Only due to the mobile device space. It will not take off outside of Wireless telco networks.

Take a look at the IPv6 Google graph that everyone loves so much:

https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html

You can clearly see an initial steep spike to the curve where mobile adoption was new and fierce, and then the curve starts slowly becoming less steep over the last 10 years. It will peter out and remain steady when mobile device adoption reaches critical mass.

	▲	dpark an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		How do you look at a chart showing Google access is 50% IPv6 and then proclaim that clearly NAT “won out”? In what world is 50% market share a loss?
	▲	umanwizard an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		No, as I pointed out in another reply to you, home internet is commonly dual-stack (at least in the US and many other countries), and machines with dual-stack connectivity can and do use IPv6 to connect to sites that support it. You can verify this yourself using Wireshark or similar tools.