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llmslave2 3 hours ago

Pretty neat how this exponential progress hasn't resulted in exponential productivity. Perhaps you could explain your perspective on that?

HPMOR 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think this is an open question still and very interesting. Ilya discussed this on the Dwarkesh podcast. But the capabilities of LLMs is clearly exponential and perhaps super exponential. We went from something that could string together incoherent text in 2022 to general models helping people like Terrance Tao and Scott Aaronson write new research papers. LLMs also beat IMO and the ICPC. We have entered the John Henry era for intellectual tasks...

llmslave2 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> But the capabilities of LLMs is clearly exponential and perhaps super exponential

By what metric?

mgfist 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Because that requires adoption. Devs on hackernews are already the most up to date folks in the industry and even here adoption of LLMs is incredibly slow. And a lot of the adoption that does happen is still with older tech like ChatGPT or Cursor.

viraptor 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Writing the code itself was never the main bottleneck. Designing the bigger solution, figuring out tradeoffs, taking to affected teams, etc. takes as much time as it used to. But still, there's definitely a significant improvement in code production part in many areas.

aoeusnth1 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It has! CLs/engineer increased by 10% this year.

LLMs from late 2024 were nearly worthless as coding agents, so given they have quadrupled in capability since then (exponential growth, btw), it's not surprising to see a modestly positive impact on SWE work.

Also, I'm noticing you're not explaining yourself :)

llmslave2 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Hey, I'm not the OG commentator, why do I have to explain myself! :)

When Fernando Alonso (best rookie btw) goes from 0-60 in 2.4 seconds in his Aston Martin, is it reasonable to assume he will near the speed of light in 20 seconds?

lopatin 43 minutes ago | parent [-]

> Hey, I'm not the OG commentator, why do I have to explain myself! :)

The issue is that you're not acknowledging or replying to people's explanations for _why_ they see this as exponential growth. It's almost as if you skimmed through the meat of the comment and then just re-phrased your original idea.

> When Fernando Alonso (best rookie btw) goes from 0-60 in 2.4 seconds in his Aston Martin, is it reasonable to assume he will near the speed of light in 20 seconds?

This comparison doesn't make sense because we know the limits of cars but we don't yet know the limits of LLMs. It's an open question. Whether or not an F1 engine can make it the speed of light in 20 seconds is not an open question.

Madmallard an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

LLMs a year ago were more able to do a complex project I've repeatedly tried to do than they are now.

scotty79 24 minutes ago | parent [-]

Try Antigravity with Gemini 3 Pro. Seems very capable to me.

scotty79 27 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

How long before introduction of computers lead to increases in average productivity? How long for the internet? Business is just slow to figure out how to use anything for its benefit, but it eventually gets there.