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bdangubic 11 hours ago

> When I hear "Google" I assume search, oof (sigh of relief).

If Google Ads is dead/dying the search is soon to follow...

hgomersall 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Search died ages ago [1]. Ads dying is a direct consequence of that.

[1] https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-men-who-killed-google/

crazygringo 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Search died ages ago

You might want to let Google know that, because the number of searches on Google appears to continue to be growing massively:

https://searchengineland.com/google-5-trillion-searches-per-...

Those numbers look like the exact opposite of dead or dying to me. As does Google's growing stock price over the same time period.

imron 7 hours ago | parent [-]

‘Numbers go up’ is the exact type of thinking that caused the death of search.

From a user perspective, google search results are awful and almost always a complete waste of time.

crazygringo 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Again, this "death of search" I hear so much about, but doesn't exist in the numbers.

If search results are such a waste of time, why do people keep using Google? In ever-increasing numbers? What's the explanation there?

wood_spirit an hour ago | parent | next [-]

You get what you measure.

It does not follow that people making more searches means people are having more successful searches. If google found the exact thing you were looking for and put it top centre in the results, would the number of human searchers stay the same but the number of human searches drop?

imron 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Dead internet theory explains this perfectly well.

Google search results are a wasteland of ads and content farms, with vanishingly small value for humans

crazygringo 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Again, then why are people using Google more than ever?

I don't really see how "dead internet theory" explains that. If it were as bad as you claim, surely usage would be plummeting? But it's just the opposite.

imron 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Are you sure it’s _people_ driving this increase?

Dead internet theory means real users are declining while bot users are skyrocketing.

For example google search is such a terrible experience these days that I’ll often ask an LLM instead.

That LLM may do multiple google and other searches on my behalf, combine, collate and present me with just the information I am looking for, bypassing the search experience entirely.

This is a fundamentally different use case from human traffic.

kakapo5672 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You should let Google know, given their business is really humming nowadays. Along with their stock price.

imron 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Google search died years ago already.

esseph 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Gemini is the new search.

frmersdog 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

AI is not and cannot be search. Search is dead and has been for a few years now. Search has seemingly been subsumed into the LLM monster, considering how "fuzzy" queries have become (probably because they're not hitting the search algorithm without being massaged by "something else"). Significant portions of the web have been purged from Google's index, which means that neither Gemini nor Search can present those pages to users.

It's over. Sorry.

esseph 7 hours ago | parent [-]

When people say "search is dead", I feel like you and I live on different planets.

If I have an idea of what I want, Google search works great. On the rare occasion I don't know the specific thing I'm looking for, Gemini points the way.

It had never ever been easier for me to find what I'm looking for on the internet, since 1993-1994.

I do wonder how much browser, location, and language plays into this.

discordance 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Search -> click on website -> read website to find the information you wanted; is dead/dying.

I agree that paradigm is over and using Google search feels antiquated. It’s not a good outcome for website owners, but I want info retrieval.

b3ing 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yep, I use it when I run out of free usage on ChatGPT or DeepSeek, or for simple queries, once ads show up I’ll block them or use something else

reddalo 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

But Gemini doesn't bring much visitors to your website. Also, optimizing for AI is even more "black magic" than normal SEO.

nicce 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Instead sites adds Gemini integrations, which are targeted based on prompts. When you pay enough, Gemini recommends your shop and AI buys the stuff for the target audience.

brainwad 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Google considers the consumer's side, not just the publishers. Users often don't want to visit someone's website (and then dodge ads and cookie/newsletter/notification popups). If the query can be answered without veer visiting a website, so much the better.