Oh look, the purity police have arrived, and this time they're the AI-bros. How righteous does one have to be before being allowed to voice criticism?

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cons0le 9 hours ago | parent [-]

I've tried many times here to voice my reservations against AI. I've been accused of being on the "anti AI hype train" multiple times today.

As if there isn't a massive pro AI hype train. I watched an nfl game for the first time in 5 years, and saw no less than 8 AI commercials. AI Is being forced on people.

In commercials people were using it to generate holiday cards for God sake. I can't imagine something more cold and impersonal. I don't want that garbage. Our time on earth is to short to wade through LLM slop text

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stavros 9 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't know your stance on AI, but "AI is being forced on people because I saw a company offering AI greeting cards" is not a stance I'd call reasonable.

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wpm 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I used to work in fast food, Golden Arches.

I noticed a pattern after a while. We'd always have themed toys for the Happy Meals, sure, sometimes they'd be like ridiculously popular with people rolling through just to see what toys we had.

Sometimes, they wouldn't. But we'd still have the toys, and on top of that, we'd have themed menus and special items, usually around the same time as a huge marketing blitz on TV. Some movie would be everywhere for a week or two, then...poof!

Because the movies that needed that blitz were always trash. Just forgettable, mid, nothing movies.

When the studios knew they had a stinker, they'd push the marketing harder to drum up box office takings, cause they knew no one was gonna buy the DVD.

Good products speak for themselves. You advertise to let people know, sure, but you don't have to be obnoxious about it.

AI products almost all have that same desperate marketing as crappy mid-budget films do. They're the equivalent of "The Hobbit branded menus at Dennys". Because no one really gives a shit about AI. For people like my mom, AI is just a natural language Google search. That's all it's really good at for the average person.

The AI companies have to justify the insane money being blown on the insane gold rush land grab at silicon they can't even turn on. Desperation, "god this bet really needs to pay off".

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stavros 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Again, "forced upon" is different from "marketed aggressively".

	▲	wpm 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		When I don't want to see the ads, yes, marketing is forced upon me.

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cons0le 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If AI was so good, you would think we could give people a choice whether or not to use it. And you would think it would make such an obvious difference, that everyone would choose to use it and keep using it. Instead, I can't open any app or website without multiple pop-ups begging me to use AI features. Can't send an email, or do a Google search. Can't post to social media, can't take a picture on my phone without it begging me to use an AI filter. Can't go to the gallery app without it begging me to let it use AI to group the photos into useless albums that I don't want.

It all stinks of resume-driven development

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stavros 9 hours ago | parent [-]

How are you being forced to use these features? I don't think I've seen a single one I couldn't just... not use.

	▲	trinsic2 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		By not giving me to the choice to removing it, turn it off completely? In windows, Co-polit is installed and its very difficult to remove. Don't act like this isn't a problem, its a very simple premise.

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tgv 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If that's all you can complain about, you agree with the parent comment for 99.99%.

And companies do force it.

	▲	stavros 7 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Of course, if I don't explicitly disagree with something, it only stands to reason that I agree with it.
	▲	cons0le 7 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Yep. For example with google searches. There's no comprehensive option to opt out of all AI. You can (for now) manually type -noai after every google search, but that's quite annoying and time consuming. You're breaking the expected behavior of something that performed flawlessly for 10+ years, all to deliver a worse, enshitified version of the search we had before. For now I'm sticking to noai.duckduckgo.com But I'm sure they'll rip that away eventually too. And then I'll have to run a god dang local search engine just to search without AI. I'll do it, but it's so disappointing.

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trinsic2 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If creations like art, music and writing ends up all being offloaded to compute, removing humans from the picture, its more that relevant, and reasonable.

Unless your version of reason is clinical. then yeah, point taken. Good luck living on that island where nothing else matters but technological progress for technology's sake alone.