Next stop: auto manufacturers and location data.

patrickk 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The ship has sailed on that one. The telematics from the car can also be sent back to the mothership, i.e. if you’re driving like a lunatic, pulling donuts, harsh acceleration and so on.

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DrewADesign 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Laws can change, but I’m not hopeful, tbh. Digital privacy problems are just too abstract to viscerally anger most people. That may change as people that grew up in surveillance capitalism mature, but being so used to invasive data grabs might replace ignorant complacency with aware complacency.

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hsbauauvhabzb 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Which is even more absurd. You can watch illegal things on TV too. Both are a gross breach of monopolistic power.

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dzhiurgis 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

On flip side not having telematics on your most expensive assets (house, car and health) is negligence.

	▲	MereInterest 3 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		There’s a difference between the owner having telemetry on their own car, and the manufacturer having telemetry on the cars they’ve sold. One is taking care of your assets, and the other is spying on customers.
	▲	sallveburrpi 5 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Are you saying that not monitoring e.g. heart rate constantly through some electronic device that sends the data somewhere (let’s assume somewhere under my control) is negligence?

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aDyslecticCrow 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's faar worse. Automotive manufacturers and live IP camera feed. (See also tesla motors)

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DrewADesign 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah. At least you can opt out of flock. Definitely can’t opt out of ring.

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dzhiurgis 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Tesla is the least bad here according to Mozilla

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zie 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Mostly only because Tesla doesn't share this data outside of Tesla, unless they leak it to news outlets to make it look like the accident was all your fault and not Tesla's.

	▲	consp 35 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Isn't that the definition of slander? Which is illegal in most places.

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aDyslecticCrow an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I point out tesla specifically because they had headlines about sharing camera feeds as memes. The Mozilla report clearly shows tesla is not an outlier, more like "middle of the pack".