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nottorp 4 days ago

Somehow that's never enough though.

jauntywundrkind 3 days ago | parent [-]

I dunno man. The past was a shit show & you seem extremely resistant to trying at all.

I struggle to figure out what it is that the systemd haters club actually struggles with, what is actually the hard parts. I do in fact sometimes use a 3 line .service file and it works fine. It feels like there is a radically conservative anti progress anti learning anti trying force that is extremely vocal that shows up all the time everywhere in any thread, to protest against doing anything or learning anything. I really really am so eager to find the learnable lessons, to find the hard spots, but it's almost entirely the same low grade discursive trashing with no constructive or informative input.

It feels like you use emotional warfare rather than reason. The culture I am from is powerless against that if that's all you bring but I also feel no respect for a culture that is so unable to equivocate what the fuck it's problems actually are. Imo we all need a social defense against complaints that are wildly vacuous & unspecific. Imo you are not meeting any baselines for taking your whinges seriously.

nottorp 3 days ago | parent [-]

> unable to equivocate what the fuck it's problems actually are

... or doesn't care to discuss it any more. RedHat's push was succesful, linux is not a hobby OS any more, you won.

I can agree with you that linux needed something better than sysv init.

I can't agree with you that this monolithic solution that takes over more and more services is better.

Oh, you want a specific complaint?

Why the fuck does systemd lock up the entire startup process for 2 minutes if you start a desktop machine without network connectivity?

bonzini 2 days ago | parent [-]

That's your distro, not systemd. systemd only does what the configuration files tell it to do.