| ▲ | acka 21 hours ago | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
> Years on, our primary data source is literally holding dozens of subscriptions to every commercial provider we can find, and enumerating the exit node IP addresses they use. Assuming your VPN identification service operates commercially, I trust that you are in full compliance with all contractual agreements and Terms of Service for the services you utilize. Many of these agreements specifically prohibit commercial use, which could encompass the harvesting of exit node IP addresses and the subsequent sale of such information. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | infecto 18 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
TOS are pretty meaningless in cases like this. It amounts to getting rejected as a customer and your account canceled. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | fourside 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
Maybe the tables could be turned and we can build a service with dozens of subscriptions to every VPN detection service and report them for ToS violations ;) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | immibis 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
There's a little secret that most of the business world knows but individuals do not know: You don't have to follow Terms of Service. In most cases, the maximum penalty the company can impose for a ToS violation is a termination of your account. And it's not illegal to make a new account. They can legally ban you from making a new account, and you can legally evade the ban. Unless you're the one-in-a-million unlucky user who gets prosecuted under the CFAA's very generic "unauthorized access to a protected computer" clause, like Aaron Swartz. It seems the general consensus is this doesn't apply to breaking a website ToS, and Aaron was only in so much trouble because he broke into a network closet, as well as for copyright violation. But consult a lawyer if unsure. (That's another difference: A business will ask a lawyer if it wants to do something shady, while an individual will simply avoid doing it) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | MangoToupe 17 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
> I trust that you are in full compliance with all contractual agreements and Terms of Service Why? It's not like there's any real moral (or, likely, legal) reason to care beyond avoiding the service's ban hammer. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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