> I'm so much happier using the Apple TV.

Then it is Apple that is harvesting your data. They may or may not display ads (I don't have an AppleTV to check), but they are certainly logging your interactions and possibly selling that data with third parties. That is on top of all the data Apple already has on people using iPhones, and the reason why I will never use anything other than a free/libre ROM like Graphene or Lineage.

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hapticmonkey a day ago | parent | next [-]

> Then it is Apple that is harvesting your data.

They quite literally have settings to disable that. There are no ads in the operating system.

https://support.apple.com/en-au/guide/tv/atvb66239fa1/tvos

I'm sure some conspiratorial thinking would lead people to the conclusion that Apple are secretly tracking and selling data. There is no evidence to suggest this is happening.

It's probably the next best thing to setting up your own linux home theater PC. But that comes with trade-offs with UX and DRM blocking 4K streaming apps and lack of Dolby Vision playback.

	▲	amlib 19 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		My samsung and lg tvs also have options to disable data harvesting. The problem , however, is that just like the apple tv they all are black boxes that have no intention in respecting your choices, thus you can't trust that disabling those options is actually disabling all the data harvesting and tracking. Apple is not a saint.
	▲	spookie 20 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		You can convert dolby vision content while preserving the enhancement layer on Linux, and play that. It's kinda of a pain but easily automated.
	▲	delfinom 19 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		>I'm sure some conspiratorial thinking would lead people to the conclusion that Apple are secretly tracking and selling data. Apple in their privacy policy reserves the right to use your data for ads. They aren't secretly tracking, they are telling you so. But it's no different than Google, who also doesn't sell your data. Just mining it to target ads.

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malfist a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Its terrible Apple is spying on you. But the alternative is to have someone spying on you and forcing ads on you. Sophie's choice.

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KetoManx64 a day ago | parent | next [-]

Mini PC with Linux + Jellyfin + web browser.

	▲	Mashimo a day ago \| parent [-]
		Some people want netflix or similar streaming services, and don't pirate. Which is limited via the browser.

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drnick1 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

I suggested in another comment a Linux HTPC or a Pi with a FOSS AndroidTV ROM as alternatives.

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Angostura a day ago | parent | prev [-]

> possibly selling that data with third parties.

Nope. According to the privacy policy

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embedding-shape 19 hours ago | parent [-]

The privacy policy literally includes that they do?

> We provide some non-personal data to our advertisers and strategic partners that work with Apple to provide our products and services, help Apple market to customers, and sell ads on Apple’s behalf to display on the App Store and Apple News and Stocks. For example, we may share non-personal data about your transactions, viewing activity, and region, as well as aggregated user demographics such as age group and gender (which may be inferred from information such as your name and salutation in your Apple Account), to Apple TV strategic partners, such as content owners, so that they can measure the performance of their creative work, meet royalty and accounting requirements, and improve their associated products and services.

https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/data/en/apple-tv-app/

	▲	MDTHLN 13 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I'm not refuting that they don't sell your data, I haven't checked. But your link is not relevant to the discussion. It's the privacy policy of the Apple TV app, not the Apple TV device.