>“We do limit their time on YouTube and other platforms and other forms of media. On weekdays we tend to be more strict, on weekends we tend to be less so. We’re not perfect by any stretch,”

>He stressed “everything in moderation” is what works best for him and his wife, and that extends to other online services and platforms.

>YouTube’s former CEO Susan Wojcicki, also barred her children from browsing videos on the app, unless they were using YouTube Kids. She also limited the amount of time they spent on the platform.

So they're not completely banning their kids from using YouTube. The current YouTube CEO uses a time limit. The previous YouTube CEO uses a time limit and limits usage to the YouTube Kids app.

Disclosure: I work at Google but not on YouTube.

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ViktorRay 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

The issue is that the business models of these platforms (Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, tik tok) are based on maximizing engagement. And maximizing engagement in this context means spending ever increased amounts of time on one platform over another or over doing offline activities like reading a book and going outside.

So the tech leaders preach moderation but the design of all these apps are built to be addictive and to maximize the time that other people and other people’s kids spend on it. It seems to be poor kids who have overworked stressed parents who seem to spend the largest chuck of time endlessly scrolling on these apps harming their minds and mental health and so on

	▲	Thorrez 2 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		YouTube Kids has a built-in timer to limit the amount of time kids can watch. https://www.youtube.com/intl/ALL_us/kids/parent-resources/
	▲	dmix 3 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		That’s because internet addiction isn’t sufficiently taken seriously as a society, even for adults. We haven’t fully adapted properly to this reality on a social level because it’s very new so people are panicking. It will eventually become standard parenting and as far as I can tell it already is becoming standard. More adults need to look at their own behaviour to fix their kids. Every cellphone already comes with the ability to limit those things. It doesn’t require coming home from work early to toggle parental controls at a certain time.

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OccamsMirror 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

My kids aren’t allowed on YouTube. I run a local system that mirrors approved channels to our home server and serves them through Plex. Creators lose ad revenue; that’s unfortunate. The alternative was nonstop ads on children’s content and a recommendation system pushing garbage. That trade-off was unacceptable.

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neom 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

I always think if I had kids this is how I'd do it also. I'm an adult who I think has fairly decent critical thinking skills and also is familiar with the state of technology etc etc. Well, I was following the news on 3I/ATLAS and I caught myself watching a youtube channel that I genuinely thought was Michio Kaku, I'd heard him talk once and it sounded and looked like him, so I put it on, switch tabs and listen as I work. I didn't notice it was AI (in retrospect I should have) but after a couple of days of watching it, I started to think...either this guy is worse than Avi Lobe or this channel is fake, the channel was fake and the content was, probably.. 2 or 3 steps removed from reality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMAFnTANx6A / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXxGWD_dtL0 / https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=michio+kaku+3i+...

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Thorrez 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Regarding ads, wouldn't YouTube Premium solve that? Regarding recommendations, YouTube kids allows you to select certain videos, channels, or collections, and only allow your kids to view those that you've selected.

https://www.youtube.com/intl/ALL_us/kids/parent-resources/

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tzs 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> I run a local system that mirrors approved channels to our home server and serves them through Plex. Creators lose ad revenue; that’s unfortunate.

Have your home server note when the kids are watching one of your mirrored channels and launch a browser on a computer the kids cannot see that is watching the same video on YouTube without an ad blocker.

The video creators then get exactly the same ad revenue and view counts they would have gotten had the kids used YouTube.

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barbazoo 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Same here as well as for other streaming. They want to watch the show more than a couple times, I’ll download it. No way I let my kids get brainwashed by these people with their weird algorithms they don’t understand themselves.

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mapontosevenths 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Those ads are optional. You can just pay for it. Its actually pretty good value for the money.

Edit: I forgot to mention Family Link. Once you have a family membership (maybe even before?) You can also use Googles family link to enable a restricted mode that hides adult content for specific accounts.

You actually get a pretty great experience for the whole family for about $20/month.

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nkrisc 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

Ads are only half the problem. The real problem with kids using YouTube is it's too easy for them to access any of the content on the platform.

If I could pay YouTube for the privilege of using an app where I choose exactly which videos are available, and no other video will ever appear on or can be accessed from that app, then I might pay for it.

IMO the only way YouTube can be kid-friendly is if there is an app where the primary utility is the ability to whitelist on a per video basis. There could be convenience methods like whitelisting an entire channel's videos with one action, but the whitelist needs to be built around a per video model.

Last I checked, they had nothing remotely like this as an option.

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conception 3 days ago | parent [-]

Youtube Kids has this. You can turn on a whitelisted content only mode. Then only content you share with the kids account shows up.

Approved content only mode.

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nkrisc 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

Thanks, good to know. Either it didn't exist when I last tried to research it, or I just couldn't find it.

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barbazoo 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

At which point I might as well put it on plex, same effort for tech savvy people.

	▲	conception 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		Plex + archive.org is the best. So many great kids shows on there to grab.

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HelloUsername 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Then you'd be giving money to the Google company as well. You can also look up the content creators and donate directly.

	▲	mapontosevenths 3 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		What is your objection to paying for the thing you seem to enjoy using? Most content creators I've heard of appreciate those who subscribe to YouTube premium. 55% of the cost goes to creators.
	▲	lII1lIlI11ll 3 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Will creators also serve you their content directly?