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Pop_OS 24.04 LTS with COSMIC desktop environment(blog.system76.com)
81 points by onnnon an hour ago | 25 comments
foxheadman an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I used to hear about COSMIC and think "Glad to see more choice, but I doubt this will go anywhere".

I wanted a Sway-like experience but with a desktop experience, and so tried it.

It's surprisingly good: a DE with powerful enough window tiling.

It's now my daily driver.

Since they're backed by a sole company, I'm still not convinced on their longevity, but remain hopeful!

I'm not familiar with Pop OS, which I now realise is what the post is.

tmtvl 12 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I hard bounced off COSMIC with the complete lack of theming. I can't even set my clock to a reasonable format in it. The only thing it has going for it is sane multi-monitor support, which neither KDE nor GNOME have gotten right so far (though at KDE there is some activity around it, dunno 'bout GNOME).

dontlaugh 9 minutes ago | parent [-]

What’s wrong with Gnome’s multi monitor support? My two monitors even have different pixel density.

bryanlarsen 14 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Have you tried the new-ish KDE window tiling? (Super-T by default) I had a similar desire to you, and am quite happy with what KDE provided. It'd be interesting to read a comparison between the two.

Although I'm happy enough with what KDE gives me that COSMIC would have to be substantially better before I'd endure the switching costs.

criddell 25 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I skimmed the linked story and I still don’t really know what POP!_OS is. They are using the Linux kernel and wrote their own desktop environment, but what’s in between that? Does it include all the GNU system tools? Is there a lot of software that takes advantage of the COSMIC desktop environment? Do they have an App Store? Is it closer to something like Ubuntu or is it more like Android?

jsk2600 21 minutes ago | parent [-]

It's based on Ubuntu 24.04 LTS, with their own DE

criddell 12 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Based on Ubuntu? So is it basically Ubuntu with Gnome removed and COSMIC added? How compatible are the two OS's?

They show icons for Steam, Chrome, Firefox, Zoom, etc... Does that mean they are maintaining their own fork of those applications built for COSMIC?

dsego 19 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Does it use snap packages?

nartho an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I like tiling a lot more than I like floating windows. Cosmic is my daily driver and is awesome. I just wish it had a bit more customization options, I don't want to spend days rummaging through wikis like with hyprland but having a bit more control over it would be nice, not a deal breaker though

panick21_ 36 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

I think even if the company goes away we will see this continue. It modern it rust and some if its fundamentals are already used by other projects. Of course not same way, but its not just going away.

pjmlp 19 minutes ago | parent [-]

I was introduced to UNIX in 1993, Linux in 1995's Summmer, and have lost count how many X Windows desktops or windows managers have come and gone in 32 years.

LatencyKills 38 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I've been using 22.04 for about six months (AI development and some Steam games) - I really enjoy it. The 24.04 upgrade was flawless.

It may sound a little odd but I'd describe my time with Pop!_OS as "quiet". It feels good to be total control again. I don't have to constantly disable things and there isn't a Copilot icon on my dock that comes back from the dead every few days.

Obsidian, 1Password, VS Code, Warp, etc. all work without issue.

wwweston 33 minutes ago | parent [-]

AI dev - any chance it works well with nvidia 5xxx series cards?

dewarrn1 29 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Not your question, but 4xxx-series work seamlessly.

bigyabai 25 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

It should. The Linux/Nvidia experience is pretty much plug-and-play if you have modern drivers.

mixmastamyk 20 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Wow, I had heard they were late but didn't realize it was over a year and a half.

Note that if you're that far behind on a project, the rational choice is to significantly cut its scope, and push the rest to the following release.

uutangohotel 7 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Is there any reason why I'd want this release instead of waiting for 26.04?

mjorgers 42 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I have yet to try it in depth, but being able to stack different apps into the same window is awesome. Reminds me of Konqueror, where you had the same app for browsing the internet and your local filesystem.

jklinger410 39 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I will try this once a designer has had a chance to clean it up

Vinnl 35 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I guess that also means the first stable release of Cosmic - congrats to the team! Honestly I expected it to be delayed more, so good on them for pulling that off. Hopefully it's actually stable.

Manfred 34 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I use Pop!_OS for my gaming PC and I generally enjoy it. It could do with less punctuation in the name because it makes it harder to search the internet for distro specific information.

dardeaup 10 minutes ago | parent [-]

I would be more inclined to use it if it didn't have punctuation within the name.

taeric 33 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Kudos to the team on getting this out! Been looking forward to updating for a while.

panick21_ 30 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

I have been using is since early Alpha and overall its pretty good. Certainty bug early on but now that I'm thinking on it I don't remember hitting any real issues in a few months now.

I still think the name Pop!_OS is dumb, they should just call it CosmicOS, as this new desktop is their defining feature and its a great name.

What is really amazing is that thanks to Cosmic now becoming an important part of Wayland, along with others, the community in total can finally move protocol forward that were blocked by really dumb ideological conflicts that are holding back Wayland. If Cosmic can take Gnome market share, people will be more willing to move on protocols without Gnome and hopefully eventually Gnome will realize that they have to implement this stuff, or at least large users of Gnome will realize it.

My with for Pop!_OS next major feature would be to embrace ZFS and build around it.

I'm also looking forward to seeing full Cosmic on ReduxOS.

ender341341 18 minutes ago | parent [-]

> the community in total can finally move protocol forward that were blocked by really dumb ideological conflicts that are holding back Wayland. If Cosmic can take Gnome market share, people will be more willing to move on protocols without Gnome and hopefully eventually Gnome will realize that they have to implement this stuff, or at least large users of Gnome will realize it.

Can you expand on what you mean here? I only somewhat follow Wayland/X11 migration/development, but from what I understand gnome is on Wayland, enough so that they apparently dropped x11 support from their upcoming release in march.