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jjice 3 days ago

Similar switching story. I'm very happy with an iPhone overall, but god damn they keyboard took some adjusting. The default keyboard on Pixels (GBoard?) is excellent. The autocorrect is also unimaginably better on the Pixel. It's embarrassing how bad the iPhone's autocorrect is. Not just missing obvious cases, but actively sabotaging correct cases.

encom 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

>autocorrect is also unimaginably better on the Pixel

Pixel user here. That depends on the language you're typing. Autocorrect and spellcheck, not just on Android but other Google products, will change correct danish to incorrect danish. It's infuriating. The issue I encounter most often happens because Google apparently assumes english grammar is universal, and insists on splitting compound words, which is never done in danish.

Danish is already being heavily eroded by foreign influence, and this isn't helping.

gatnoodle 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I've switched to GBoard on the iphone. I don't like the fact that I need to use a third-party software for something that's so crucial. But GBoard is so much better than the default iphone keybaord.

rkomorn 2 days ago | parent [-]

I was a gboard user on iOS for years but it progressively got so inexplicably unusably slow I gave up.

Maybe your comment means it's got back to being usable.

Edit: https://apps.apple.com/pt/app/gboard-the-google-keyboard/id1...

No updates in 3 years? And search results complaining about gboard on iOS 26? Doesn't sound promising.

tasuki 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> The default keyboard on Pixels (GBoard?) is excellent.

Not my experience at all. Do you only write English?

mavamaarten 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

I personally haven't found any keyboard that works better than gboard. And exactly because it's the only keyboard that just lets me type in two languages without having to "switch", and it does that well. Right now my spacebar just says "NL - EN" and it lets me combine Dutch and English just fine.

kergonath 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

From my experience it is much worse than it used to be 5 years ago. I have been writing English, French, and to a lesser extent German on an iPhone since ~2008. Initially, the dumb autocorrect would just correct to the closer word in the dictionary corresponding to the current keyboard, but over time it would pick up more and more words I used regularly. At some point around 2018 or so, it was nearly flawless. I think it changed the dictionary depending on the language or the sentence, because I had different suggestions for the same mistyped word in the same document. Also, I assume that by then my personal dictionary was quite extensive.

And then they bragged about a new machine-learning improved keyboard and it went downhill. First, all keyboards became monolingual, which was a 10-years regression. And even in that language, it was very flakey. They added multi-language keyboards somewhat recently and it got slightly better, except that for some reason it changes the keyboard back to the English-only one regularly for no reason I can see.

It is maddening. For a couple of years it was fantastic.

noname120 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

And that’s not the worst. On the Apple Watch not only is the multilingual keyboard completely broken, but worse than that: if you change the language of the keyboard by long pressing the space button it shows the new language, but the autocorrect proceeds to just ignore it completely and autocorrects everything as if I were typing in the system language rather than the one I selected.

And contrary to the iPhone you can’t even disable autocorrect! This + the super-aggressive autocorrect of watchOS (the screen is small after all so you are likely to make a mistake and we better fix it automatically!) makes it an absolute NIGHTMARE to type on an Apple Watch in multiple languages. Your only option is to use speech to type because that one for some reason works when you change the language whereas the keyboard doesn’t care.

Edit: the language switch bug on watchOS seems to have finally been fixed on watchOS 26.1. The bug was already long present on watchOS 11, so not something that watchOS 26 introduced.

whycome 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This scarily aligns with my experience. 2018 was the golden age for keyboards for whatever reason.

rockinghigh 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Completely agreed. Apple seriously regressed the multi-lingual experience. They probably have a model per language. If you have to mix languages in a sentence, well, good luck!

cyberrock 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I just want to talk to the folks who made the language switching logic so complicated instead of just a constant rotation like desktop IMEs. It seems like they expect the user to remember the previous language or prioritize languages in a clear order, but did it not occur to them that I might switch languages chaotically (A->C->D->B), keep it there, then hours later when I forgot what $previousLanguage was and press switch, I might as well be spinning a roulette?

batrat 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This. I use romanian, english and turkish at the same time. Sometimes goes sideways because we mix a lot of words in english and romaninan in the same sentence, but it's ok. No other keyboard comes close.

parliament32 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Multilingual typing is a godsend. I did have to tweak settings though, like disabling the "suggestion strip" (because sometimes I'd be typing fast and accidently click the GIF button, then an image, which in many apps sends it immediately without a draft which was extremely annoying).

Mashimo 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I use 3 languages with SwiftKey and it works really well.

That said, it got bought by Microsoft and now they try to cram in some AI nonsense :(

chimeracoder 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> And exactly because it's the only keyboard that just lets me type in two languages without having to "switch", and it does that well. Right now my spacebar just says "NL - EN" and it lets me combine Dutch and English just fine.

I can't stand keyboards that do this - especially those that don't let you turn it off. If you write in another language that doesn't use the Latin alphabet, you end up with nonsense suggestions - common English words like "the" or "and" will get replaced with obscure words in another language that just happen to sound vaguely phonetically similar. I almost never switch languages mid-sentence when typing, and yet the keyboard can't seem to grasp that.

jjice 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah I only write English so I have no idea of the quality of other languages.

chanux 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Have you noticed any degradation of experience on mobile Safari with new glass interface?

glitchcrab 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

You can install gboard on iOS - I haven't used the default keyboard in years

socalgal2 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

It's abandoned and buggy. I'm surprised google hasn't just removed it from the store. I suspect as soon as it actually requires an update because of a change in the OS it will disappear.

Yes, I loved it, but it crashed in too many apps and I had to switch to the Apple one :(

lynndotpy 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Unfortunately, it's simply not as good. I miss long-press punctuation so much.

SJMG 2 days ago | parent [-]

This 1000x over! On Android you have this and you can tune how long a long-press is. It's amazing and should be an advanced feature on iOS.

I wish Apple would get over itself and expose settings for all-the-things, like how you can write default finder settings on macOS using the terminal.

lynndotpy a day ago | parent [-]

Yes! I miss it very much. When I was on Android, I used to have it set to 100ms. I used to very quickly send well-punctuated text. On iPhones, it seems like the digitizer has 100ms of hysteresis built in.

now i just Lettuce my iPhone sden whatever it wants with no punctuation its not real good

Unfortunately, MacOS doesn't have settings (which I am told it had) for animation scales, like Androids have. The interface is sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow.

jjice 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah I tried it and it doesn't stand up to it on Android in my experience. I figured I'd rather not give Google any data if the experience isn't going to be the same.

PieUser 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

That buggy abandonware that hasn't been updated in 3 years?