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malfist 4 days ago

This is not a new behavior for Facebook. Back when I was on Facebook (left in 2016) the LGBT groups I was part of kept constantly getting banned or suspended, but they never once acted on a report I sent them from people posting blatantly racists content or inciting violence.

Someone could post that all black people are stupid and were better off enslaved and Facebook would respond to a report saying it doesn't violate any policies, but someone posting a shirtless photo of themselves to an lgbt group gets it shutdown for a week.

bgbntty2 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

Facebook has never had a consistent policy with what's allowed and what isn't. They haven't banned several obvious scams I've reported, but have banned a post that contains a picture of dog medicine (a blister of pills). The vague reason given was that it (could've been?) related to recreational drugs or something like this.

LexiMax 4 days ago | parent [-]

Nearly all of the LGBT groups that I am aware of are primarily on Discord and other, similar services for this very reason. All of the other socials exist only as on ramps to the real community. The weirdos can shout into the void all they like, but nobody's listening to or engaging with them.

This is also why I keep saying that the Discord model is the future of social media, not Facebook or Twitter. Turns out that when you can allow users to exert meaningful control over their social spaces, instead of relying on the judgment of some of the most sociopathic, self-interested and immoral people in tech, you can create actual communities.

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 4 days ago | parent [-]

> the Discord model is the future of social media

Curious what it is about Discord you think is different enough from other social media to warrant this claim. I don't have strong feelings one way or the other, just curious.

LexiMax 4 days ago | parent [-]

Discord lacks the "capriciously moderated town square" that most other social media has, and this is a feature, not a bug.

Instead, it harkens back to the older era of web forums and IRC channels where communities were siloed and moderated by actual humans using moderation tools, permission abstractions, and even bot API's that are actually fit for purpose.

The key advantage that Discord has over the pre-social-media status quo is that Discord gives the ability for users to moderate their social spaces without the overhead of having to run their own forum software or intuit the arcane NickServ/ChanServ deep majick. The friction for creating a new social space is quite low, and joining one of those spaces is as simple as obtaining an invite - which can either be publicly posted or only handed out to specific users on a case by case basis.

Sites like Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter are antithetical to this - they want you to throw you in the deep end and get hooked by engagement-bait. Reddit was probably the closest prior art, but Reddit still gamified engagement using voting, kept the walls between subreddits very thin, and refused to give moderators adequate tools to properly moderate their subreddits. As time has gone on, further changes to Reddit's structure and userbase have turned moderators from being community curators to doing free janitorial work for a tech company.

Ancapistani 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

FWIW, this seems to be consistent across political lines.

I've been part of several gun rights groups on Facebook, both for political advocacy and plan information sharing, that have been banned without warning. Meanwhile there are groups where nothing is ever posted that isn't for sale - I haven't seen one of those taken down for several years now, and many of them are scoped to an entire state and have tens of thousands of users.

op7 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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andsoitis 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

> LGBT is sexually explicit topic.

No it is not. When I say “my husband and I”, I am asserting a fact and who I am as a gay guy and I’m not stating anything sexual.

> being US companies retain a puritanical attitude

I do not know that to be true. The US is an also a playground of very explicit pornographic online services. But everything has its place.

There is a real practical problem that is not easily solvable, and that is how to draw a reasonable line at scale across different cultures and legal frameworks. Anyone saying it is easy or clear is not a serious thinker.

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