| ▲ | lomase 7 hours ago |
| That is why most of the world has not been using c/c++ for decades. |
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| ▲ | scuff3d 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I'm not on the Rust bandwagon, but statements like this make absolutely no sense. A lot of software was written in C and C++ because they were the only option for decades. If you couldn't afford garbage collection and needed direct control of the hardware there wasn't much of a choice. Had their been "safer" alternatives, it's possible those would have been used instead. It's only been in the last few years we've seen languages emerge that could actually replace C/C++ with projects like Rust, Zig and Odin. I'm not saying they will, or they should, but just that we actually have alternatives now. |
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| ▲ | pjmlp an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | At least on PC world you could be using Delphi, for example, or Turbo Pascal before it. Also I would refrain me to list all other alternatives. | |
| ▲ | vbezhenar 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | One could rewrite curl with Perl 30 years ago. Or with Java, Golang, Python, you name it. Yet it stays written with C even today. | | |
| ▲ | johncolanduoni 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | If you’re trying to demonstrate something about Rust by pointing out that someone chose C over Perl, I have to wonder how much you know about the positive characteristics of C. Let alone Rust. | |
| ▲ | avhception 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Your comment comes across disingenuous to me.
Writing it in, for example, Java would have limited it to situations where you have the JVM available, which is a minuscule subset of the situations that curl is used in today, especially if we're not talking "curl, the CLI tool" but libcurl.
I have a feeling you know that already and mostly want to troll people.
And Golang is only 16 years old according to Wikipedia, by the way. |
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| ▲ | vardump 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| That's not true when the topic is operating system kernels. |
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| ▲ | checker659 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | OS kernels? Everything from numpy to CUDA to NCCL is using C/C++ (doing all the behind the scene heavy lifting), never mind the classic systems software like web browsers, web servers, networking control plane (the list goes on). | | |
| ▲ | lmm 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Newer web servers have already moved away from C/C++. Web browsers have been written in restricted subsets of C/C++ with significant additional tooling for decades at this point, and are already beginning to move to Rust. | | |
| ▲ | drnick1 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | There is not a single major browser written in Rust. Even Ladybird, a new project, adopted C++. | | |
| ▲ | lmm 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Firefox and Chrome already contain significant amounts of Rust code, and the proportion is increasing. | | |
| ▲ | vbezhenar 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | https://github.com/chromium/chromium : C++ 74.0%, Java 8.8%, Objective-C++ 4.8%,
TypeScript 4.2%, HTML 2.5%, Python 2.4%, Other 3.3% https://github.com/mozilla-firefox/firefox : JavaScript 28.9%, C++ 27.9%, HTML 21.8%, C 10.4%, Python 2.9%, Kotlin 2.7%, Other 5.4% How significant? | | |
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| ▲ | RealityVoid 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Web browsers have been written in restricted subsets of C/C++ with significant additional tooling for decades at this point So, written in C/C++? It seems to me you're trying to make a point that reality doesn't agree with but you stubbornly keep pushing it. | | |
| ▲ | lmm 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | > So, written in C/C++? Not in the sense that people who are advocating writing new code in C/C++ generally mean. If someone is advocating following the same development process as Chrome does, then that's a defensible position. But if someone is advocating developing in C/C++ without any feature restrictions or additional tooling and arguing "it's fine because Chrome uses C/C++", no, it isn't. |
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| ▲ | bogantech 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Most software development these days is JS/Typescript slop, popular doesn't equal better |
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| ▲ | recursive 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | You can write slop in any language. And good software for that matter. |
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| ▲ | wat10000 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Most of the world uses other languages because they’re easier, not because they’re safer. |
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| ▲ | gpm 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | They're easier because, amongst other improvements, they are safer. |
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| ▲ | lawn 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| People didn't use seatbelts before seatbelts were invented. |
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