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arilotter 7 hours ago

This title is moderately clickbait-y and comes with a subtle implication that Rust might be getting removed from the kernel. IMO it should be changed to "Rust in the kernel is no longer experimental"

sho_hn 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I absolutely understand the sentiment, but LWN is a second-to-none publication that on this rare occasion couldn't resist the joke, and also largely plays to an audience who will immediately understand that it's tongue-in-cheek.

Speaking as a subscriber of about two decades who perhaps wouldn't have a career without the enormous amount of high-quality education provided by LWN content, or at least a far lesser one: Let's forgive.

zengid 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

He didn't intend it as a joke and his intent matches the op's title revision request: https://lwn.net/Articles/1049840/

DrammBA 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> on this rare occasion couldn't resist the joke

It was unintentional as per author

> Ouch. That is what I get for pushing something out during a meeting, I guess. That was not my point; the experiment is done, and it was a success. I meant no more than that.

DANmode 5 hours ago | parent [-]

The “Ouch.” was in reference to being compared to Phoronix.

Has anyone found them to be inaccurate, or fluffy to the point it degraded the content?

I haven’t - but then again, probably predominantly reading the best posts being shared on aggregators.

stavros 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I don't know about the "ouch" but the rest of the comment seems pretty clear that they didn't intend to imply the clickbait.

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IshKebab 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Nah I used to read Phoronix and the articles are a bit clickbaity sometimes but mostly it's fine. The real issue is the reader comments. They're absolute trash.

b33j0r 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Fair. But there’s even an additional difference between snarky clickbait and “giving the exact opposite impression of the truth in a headline” ;)

nailer 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Hacker news generally removes Clickbait titles regardless of the provenance

raggi 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If it was being removed the title would be "An update on rust in the kernel"

joshdavham 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think on HN, people generally want the submission's title to match the page's title.

(I do agree it's clickbait-y though)

airstrike 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Guidelines say fine to editorialize in these cases.

> Otherwise please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

not2b 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think on HN, people waste too much time arguing about the phrasing of the headline, whether it is clickbait, etc. and not enough discussing the actual substance of the article.

Archelaos 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I prefer improved titles. However, not in this case. It is rather irony, because LWN does not need click-bait.

goku12 4 hours ago | parent [-]

This one is apparently a genuine mistake from the author. But I think we should leave it as it is. The confusion and the argument about it is interesting in itself.

onedognight 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It’s a bit clickbait-y, but the article is short, to the point, and frankly satisfying. If there is such a thing as good clickbait, then this might be it. Impressive work!

ModernMech 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Might as well just post it:

  The topic of the Rust experiment was just discussed at the annual Maintainers Summit. The consensus among the assembled developers is that Rust in the kernel is no longer experimental — it is now a core part of the kernel and is here to stay. So the "experimental" tag will be coming off. Congratulations are in order for all of the Rust-for-Linux team.
testdelacc1 4 hours ago | parent [-]

This should just be the pinned comment.

Redster 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Perhaps, except it can have the reverse effect. I was surprised, disappointed, and then almost moved on without clicking the link or the discussion. I'm glad I clicked. But good titles don't mislead! (To be fair, this one didn't mislead, but it was confusing at best.)

zengid 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

i agree and this matches the authors intent: https://lwn.net/Articles/1049840/

CrankyBear 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

He didn't mean to! That said, the headline did make me look.

panzi 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm having deja Vu. Was there another quite similar headline here a few weeks or so ago?

heddelt 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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Aldipower 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Seems you do not understand the concept of fun. You can learn that, makes your life easier.

huflungdung 4 hours ago | parent [-]

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