| ▲ | emmp 2 hours ago |
| No interest in this exactly, but I am interested in the idea that third parties are now targeting the Framework form factor explicitly to sell upgrades/replacements outside of the Framework marketplace. |
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| ▲ | roughly an hour ago | parent | next [-] |
| Yeah, there’s a lot of critiques of the product/packaging/etc, but this feels like huge validation of the Framework model - this is an unrelated 3rd party looking to get a chip in consumer hands who decided to use the FW chassis. That’s Exactly what we all were hoping for when Framework first launched. |
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| ▲ | NewJazz 21 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Yeah this is what annoyed me about Pine64's Pinebook Pro 2 plans... No upgrade kits, they wanted to completely change the form factor! The chassis of my PBP is great (brittle plastic notwithstanding)! That's the last thing I want to replace in the device. |
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| ▲ | giancarlostoro 30 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Its about time, I hope System76 comes up with their own version of the Framework laptop, because I would love to buy a laptop where I can swap out all internals, motherboard etc. but I really also want to work with System76 because I love what they are doing with POP_OS! (though I prefer arch these days, I can still use their Desktop environment etc) and love that they make Linux hardware specifically. We have needed a "Jeep of Laptops" for a while, maybe someone needs to spec out a fully open source design that any manufacturer can target. |
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| ▲ | dontlaugh 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| That is interesting. I wish someone made a keyboard that doesn’t suck, ideally split as well. |
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| ▲ | ratrocket 13 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Similar to a sibling comment, and perhaps not really applicable (since this isn't a company making something people can buy...), but the MNT Reform is amenable to fitting a custom/ergonomic keyboard also (I hadn't seen the Framework in the sibling comment, it looks very cool!). I don't know how to link to it directly, but midway down this article there's a picture and some more links of an MNT Reform (apparently completely home-built) with a very cool, "thumb-centric", column staggered ergo keyboard: https://mntre.com/media/reform_md/2022-07-01-july-update.htm... (search for "More great mods from the community..." heading if interested) I would very much like to have a keyboard like either of those on my laptop. The stares you'd get when in public!! | |
| ▲ | thebigspacefuck an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | https://blog.perprogramming.com/posts/framework-ortholinear-... | | |
| ▲ | dontlaugh an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Yes, something like that. Ideally for a reasonably sized 13-14” laptop. | |
| ▲ | lawn 33 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Very cool! Although to be pedantic, that's not an "ortholinear" keyboard (as in a square grid) rather a keyboard with column stagger (which you should use). I wonder if you could make it for a FW13 too? I know QMK doesn't work for 13. Edit: I see now that it uses a separate microcontroller, so yes if you could make it fit then it should work. | | |
| ▲ | evanjrowley 12 minutes ago | parent [-] | | It also bothers me that the meaning of "ortholinear" has been lost, but at least it's a sign that the hobby has grown to a certain point. |
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| ▲ | einpoklum an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Just made a top-level comment about the same thing. A big part of the core functionality of a laptop, as opposed to a PC, is is that of a typewriter: * Notes in class * Minutes in a meeting * Entries in a journal or travelogue * Writing the next great novel etc. Why have manufacturers simply taken that away from us, in favor of a terrible excuse with ridiculous tactile feedback? | | |
| ▲ | dontlaugh an hour ago | parent [-] | | I actually like short travel very light linear switches, mechanical or not. I don’t like row stagger and non-split keyboards, for ergonomic reasons. That’s definitely a niche preference, but if anyone would cater to it you’d expect it to be Framework or similar. | | |
| ▲ | einpoklum 19 minutes ago | parent [-] | | You're right that Framework is exactly where I would expect flexibility on this: I mean, just looking at their landing page - you see a laptop without the keyboard and ports. Framework offers 176 (!) kinds of "keyboards": https://frame.work/marketplace/keyboards but not one decent keyboard. Why? (Answer: it's basically just keyboard covers, and the many options are due to variations of colors and languages. But I would take a hot pink / toxic green keyboard with ancient tibetan labels if the keys were non-chicklet, with decent travel, sizes, and feedback. 7 rows if possible.) |
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| ▲ | samrus 31 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Exactly. This is exactly we get in return for compromising on quality and price with framework. Other tech is cheaper because of planned obsolescence or lock in. Im glad to pay more money to have this freedom |
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| ▲ | browningstreet 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| My first thought was, "How many units could they possibly expect to sell given this target?" |
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| ▲ | Someone 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | FTA: “the company has introduced a mainboard that can be installe in the Framework Laptop 13 or in a mini PC case“ ⇒ their market likely isn’t enormous, but it is larger than that of Framework Laptop owners. | |
| ▲ | cmrdporcupine 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Sounds like the board also somehow works inside a mini-itx chassis or something? | | |
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