That is interesting.

I wish someone made a keyboard that doesn’t suck, ideally split as well.

ratrocket 14 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Similar to a sibling comment, and perhaps not really applicable (since this isn't a company making something people can buy...), but the MNT Reform is amenable to fitting a custom/ergonomic keyboard also (I hadn't seen the Framework in the sibling comment, it looks very cool!).

I don't know how to link to it directly, but midway down this article there's a picture and some more links of an MNT Reform (apparently completely home-built) with a very cool, "thumb-centric", column staggered ergo keyboard:

https://mntre.com/media/reform_md/2022-07-01-july-update.htm...

(search for "More great mods from the community..." heading if interested)

I would very much like to have a keyboard like either of those on my laptop. The stares you'd get when in public!!

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thebigspacefuck an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

https://blog.perprogramming.com/posts/framework-ortholinear-...

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dontlaugh an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Yes, something like that. Ideally for a reasonably sized 13-14” laptop.

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lawn 35 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Very cool!

Although to be pedantic, that's not an "ortholinear" keyboard (as in a square grid) rather a keyboard with column stagger (which you should use).

I wonder if you could make it for a FW13 too? I know QMK doesn't work for 13.

Edit: I see now that it uses a separate microcontroller, so yes if you could make it fit then it should work.

	▲	evanjrowley 14 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		It also bothers me that the meaning of "ortholinear" has been lost, but at least it's a sign that the hobby has grown to a certain point.

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einpoklum an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Just made a top-level comment about the same thing.

A big part of the core functionality of a laptop, as opposed to a PC, is is that of a typewriter:

* Notes in class

* Minutes in a meeting

* Entries in a journal or travelogue

* Writing the next great novel

etc.

Why have manufacturers simply taken that away from us, in favor of a terrible excuse with ridiculous tactile feedback?

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dontlaugh an hour ago | parent [-]

I actually like short travel very light linear switches, mechanical or not.

I don’t like row stagger and non-split keyboards, for ergonomic reasons. That’s definitely a niche preference, but if anyone would cater to it you’d expect it to be Framework or similar.

	▲	einpoklum 20 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		You're right that Framework is exactly where I would expect flexibility on this: I mean, just looking at their landing page - you see a laptop without the keyboard and ports. Framework offers 176 (!) kinds of "keyboards": https://frame.work/marketplace/keyboards but not one decent keyboard. Why? (Answer: it's basically just keyboard covers, and the many options are due to variations of colors and languages. But I would take a hot pink / toxic green keyboard with ancient tibetan labels if the keys were non-chicklet, with decent travel, sizes, and feedback. 7 rows if possible.)