Some time ago I also thought that no 3.5mm jack is a deal-breaker, but I bought super cheap jack-usbc adapter that is 5cm long and it works pretty well.

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EvanAnderson 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I haven't tried a USB-C to 3.55mm adapter but your experience heartens me.

Headphone jack has been a hard line for me. Having recently moved into the world of wireless charging (I keep a phone 5-7 years and just missed wireless charging being normalized on my last phone purchase back in 2020) I think using the USB port for headphone is finally visible.

I spend a lot of the day with my headphones on and the phone on the wireless charging puck. Not being forced to choose between charging and headphones changes the equation.

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komali2 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Correct me if I'm wrong but those cables must include a DAC to function properly and so usually have a tiny kinda crappy one in them, right?

In this post headphone jack world I use a fiio Bluetooth/USB DAC that's really good quality. But it's about the size of two ipod nanos stacked on top of each other.

	▲	JoshTriplett 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		> Correct me if I'm wrong but those cables must include a DAC to function properly and so usually have a tiny kinda crappy one in them, right? Not necessarily. If the device is using audio over alt-mode, it can use its own DAC.
	▲	ThePowerOfFuet 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		>those cables must include a DAC to function properly and so usually have a tiny kinda crappy one in them, right? FWIW, audiophiles were very impressed with the measured performance of the €10 Apple USB-C to 3.5mm adapter and its DAC. The Google one is likely good too.