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| 30 points by doener 4 days ago | 32 comments | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | piskov an hour ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Instead of that sorry excuse of an article, here is the proper long-read about spaces. Albeit in Russian, all modern browsers support live translation — should be fine. https://type.today/ru/journal/spaces Update: in English https://type.today/en/journal/spaces — BTW typography is very important to Russian designers and developers. Many install special typography layout (with “right alt” layer for the symbols) to always enter correct m-dashes, quotes, and what have you. https://ilyabirman.ru/typography-layout/ There is even an ongoing meme with a woman crying “I don’t deserve such treatment, that’s how I’ve always written” when her flawless typography was considered ChatGPT in the making: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | pinkmuffinere 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
This is fascinating! At the same time, this wikipedia article is of surprisingly low quality, with sentences like > It is hard to determine how much spacing should be put in between words, but a good typographer is able to determine proper spacing.[3] > Since the fifteenth century, the best work shows that text is to be read smoothly and efficiently.[4] > Two other gentlemen have expressed different opinions on what the space between words should be. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | ralferoo 27 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
There's lots of questionable stuff on this page. I particularly objected to this which clearly isn't true in most English speech: "Word spacing is crucial for the written form because it illustrates the sound of speech where audible gaps or pauses take place." If I were reading it aloud, even for a presentation, the spaces between morphemes would be more like this: "Wordspacing iscru'cial forthewri'ttenform be'cause itill'ustrates thesoun'dofspeech where audiblegaps or pauses takeplace." where a ' is a shorted pause than a space. The length of the ' isn't really long enough to be called out as a pause, but it's definitely longer than between words which frequently run directly into the next. Spacing is important, but it's as an aid to parsing a written sentence at speed, and almost nothing to do with showing the pauses between morphemes. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | kccqzy 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I actually like the interpunct way better (which I first saw when I visited Italy and saw historical carvings): instead⸱of⸱putting⸱spaces⸱you⸱put⸱a⸱small⸱dot⸱between⸱words⸱instead. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | sempron64 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
This is for Latin. The Dead Sea Scrolls have clear spacing between the words. https://www.imj.org.il/en/wings/shrine-book/dead-sea-scrolls The Talmud discusses the spacing between the words of the Bible: https://www.bible-researcher.com/hebrewtext1.html | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | wanderingstan 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Related self promotion: this factoid about spaces, along with other fun slices in the evolution of writing, features in my decade-ago Ignite talk “For the love of letters” | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | abdullahkhalids an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
OT: Urdu, like Arabic/Persian, is written with an alphabet where letters can change shape based on whether they are at the start, middle or end of a "word" [1]. I say "word" because some letters don't have a middle form, so each actual word is broken into a sequence of composite-letter-shapes, where each composite shape start with such a no-middle-form letter. A problem arises when one wants to write a compound word, which the last letter for the first word and the first letter of the second word must not be joined. To achieve this, the unicode standard has U+200C ZERO WIDTH NON-JOINER character, which should be used in such compound words [2]. The standard SPACE character should not be used because it will create a physical space, while U+200C will create a break with no space. However, typically Urdu keyboards don't have this character in them, so everyone ends up either using SPACE or just joining the words. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | delichon 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> Word spacing [creates] what Paul Sänger, in his book The Spaces between the Words, refers to as aerated text. I like that term. I particularly enjoy a large amount of ventilation of code, with plenty of breezy white spaces after purposely short lines and between brief declarations. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | msuniverse2026 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Weird that only Latin, Greek, and Irish is mentioned in the article. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | retentionissue 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
And then 7 centuries later, whiskey came about and look how terrible things turned out............. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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