I broadly agree. They package "copilot" in a way that constantly gets in your way.

The one time I thought it could be useful, in diagnosing why two Azure services seemingly couldn't talk to each other, it was completely useless.

I had more success describing the problem in vague terms to a different LLM, than an AI supposedly plugged into the Azure organisation that could supposedly directly query information.

▲ mk89 34 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

My 2 cents. It's when OKRs are executed without a vision, or the vision is that one and well, it sucks.

The goal is AI everywhere, so this means top-down everyone will implement it and will be rewarded for doing so, so thrre are incentives for each team to do it - money, promotions, budget.

100 teams? 100 AI integrations or more. It's not 10 entry points as it should be (maybe).

This means for a year or more, a lot of AI everywhere, impossible to avoid, will make usability sink.

Now, if this was only done by Microsoft, I would not mind. The issue is that this behavior is getting widespread.

Things are becoming increasingly unusable.

▲ Arwill 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I had a WTF moment last week, i was writing SQL, and there was no autocomplete at all. Then a chunk of autocomplete code appeared, what looked like an SQL injection attack, with some "drop table" mixed in. The code would have not worked, it was syntactically rubbish, but still looked spooky, should have made a screenshot of it.

▲ xnorswap 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This is the most annoying thing, and it's even happened to Jetbrains' rider too.

Some stuff that used to work well with smart autocomplete / intellisense got worse with AI based autocomplete instead, and there isn't always an easy way to switch back to the old heuristic based stuff.

You can disable it entirely and get dumb autocomplete, or get the "AI powered" rubbish, but they had a very successful heuristic / statistics based approach that worked well without suggesting outright rubbish.

In .NET we've had intellisense for 25 years that would only suggest properties that could exist, and then suddenly I found a while ago that vscode auto-completed properties that don't exist.

It's maddening! The least they could have done is put in a roslyn pass to filter out the impossible.

	▲	harvey9 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Loosely related: voice control on Android with Gemini is complete rubbish compared to the old assistant. I used to be able to have texts read out and dictate replies whilst driving. Now it's all nondeterministic which adds cognitive load on me and is unsafe in the same way touch screens in cars are worse than tactile controls.
	▲	blackadder 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		This is my biggest frustration. Why not check with the compiler to generate code that would actually compile? I've had this with Go and .Net in the Jetbrains IDE. Had to turn ML auto-completion off. It was getting in the way.
	▲	tbd23 an hour ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		The most WTF moment for me was that recent Visual Studio versions hooked up the “add missing import” quick fix suggestion to AI. The AI would spin for 5s, then delete the entire file and only leave the new import statement. I’m sure someone on the VS team got a pat on the back for increasing AI usage but it’s infuriating that they broke a feature that worked perfectly for a decade+ without AI. Luckily there was a switch buried in settings to disable the AI integration.
	▲	cyberax 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		The regular JetBrains IDEs have a setting to disable the AI-based inline completion, you can then just assign it to a hotkey and call it when needed. I found that it makes the AI experience so much better.

▲ mk89 26 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Same thing happened to me today in vs code. A simple helm template:

```{{ .default .Values.whatever 10 }}``` instead of the correct ```{{ default 10 .Values.whatever }}```.

Pure garbage which should be solved by now. I don't understand how it can make such a mistake.

▲ a_t48 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The last time I asked Gemini to assist me with some SQL I got (inside my postgres query form):

  This task cannot be accomplished
  USING
    standard SQL queries against the provided database schema. Replication slots
    managed through PostgreSQL system views AND functions,
    NOT through user-defined tables. Therefore,
    I must return

It's feels almost haiku-like.

	▲	wubrr an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Gemini weirdly messes things up, even though it seems to have the right information - something I started noticing more often recently. I'd ask it to generate a curl command to call some API, and it would describe (correctly) how to do it, and then generate the code/command, but the command would have obvious things missing like the 'https://' prefix in some case, sometimes the API path, sometimes the auth header/token - even though it mentioned all of those things correctly in the text summary it gave above the code. I feel like this problem was far less prevalent a few months/weeks ago (before gemini-3?). Using it for research/learning purposes has been pretty amazing though, while claude code is still best for coding based on my experience.

▲ zoeysmithe 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The problem with scrapping the web for teaching AI is that the web is full of 'little bobby tables' jokes.

▲ yoyohello13 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I had the experience too. Working with Azure is already a nightmare, but the copilot tool built in to Azure is completely useless for troubleshooting. I just pasted log output into Claude and got actual answers. Mincrosoft’s first party stuff just seems so half assed and poorly thought out.

▲ raw_anon_1111 25 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I have had great luck with ChatGPT trying to figure out a complex AWS issue with

“I am going to give you the problem I have. I want you to help me work backwards step by step and give me the AWS cli commands to help you troubleshoot. I will give you the output of the command”.

It’s a combination of advice that ChatGPT gives me and my own rubberducking.

▲ vjvjvjvjghv 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"They package "copilot" in a way that constantly gets in your way."

And when you try to make it something useful, the response is usually "I can't do that"

	▲	greazy 12 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		I asked copilot in outlook webmail to search my emails for something I needed. I can't do that. that's the one use case where LLM is helpful!

▲ smileson2 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

that's what happens when everyone is under the guillotine and their lives depend on overselling this shit ASAP instead of playing/experimenting to figure things out

▲ ihsw 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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