That's the dream at a big company for sure. The last mega tech company I worked for had the familiar trap of not knowing how to rate higher level engineers. Things basically turned into a popularity contest, with grading criteria like your "impact on or leadership in the tech community" and other such nonsense.

Quietly making good things and enabling good people to be better is where it is at.

The thing about your bigco, the OPs and the post he's talking about, is it's all so abstract from money.

You have two poles here.

1. The VC route, strikes gold, and never really needs to live with the reality of asking what an ROI is, it's all talk about spotlight, impact and value, without any articulation about cash money.

2. The MBA route where you effectively can't brush your teeth without a cost/benefit analysis that itself often cost multiple times your initiative, resulting in nothing getting done until you're in some tech debt armageddon.

The reality is if you're still making bank on the abstract without being able to articulate revenue or costs, you're probably still in the good times.

Deep work that's important but does not appear shiny carries an elevated risk of being completely messed up by someone.

"Oh this thing here looks steady and boring. This sure does not need a team of six."

Next thing you know, the thing falls apart, destabilizing everything that stood on it's stability.

Unfortunately, in this profession we are being lead by managers that do not longer have deep knowledge of how to build good software systems. They can't evaluate contributions in code, so they resort to evaluate participation, and popularity.

As an engineer you are left with a dilema. Either you focus on writing solid code and making your projects move forward or you focus on selling your self to the leadership class.

Couldn’t agree more (but frustratingly due to HN’ shitty mobile experience i downvoted this, sorry!)

In a past life i used to complain that people only praised my work after i fucked up and subsequently fixed it. I’d go month on month of great execution and all I’d hear would be complaints, but as soon as i “fixed” a major issue, i was a hero.

I’ve learn that setting appropriate incentives is the hardest part of building an effective organization.

As long as quietly making stuff pays off, sure. If I get a bigger paycheck just from being known by the higher ups I'll go for the popularity contest. People work to feed themselves and their families after all and considering how unethical big tech is, I dont think anything u work on could do anything to better the world. So yeah, popularity contest and doing as little work as possible it is.