| ▲ | throwaw12 2 hours ago |
| Who is the beneficiary from this? I don't think its EU citizens, because: * roads will be damaged faster
* risk of hitting and killing more people
* because roads damaged more tax money spent on fixing them
* more CO2
I think EU should go back to build good relationships with Russia, take its cheaper gas & energy and support its own economy, instead of propping up the US economy and opening the market for its ugly huge cars.Just come to Amsterdam and see if you can drive those cars in the middle of Amsterdam. Even trams from 2 opposite direction share same line in some areas. |
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| ▲ | Tor3 19 minutes ago | parent | next [-] |
| Build good relationships with Russia? That's a call to Russia, not the EU! First and foremost, Russia has to stop going to war with its neighbours.
In any case, Europe doesn't need Russian gas for much longer. |
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| ▲ | rcxdude an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The EU was bending over backwards for Russia until they invaded a neighboring country for being too friendly to them. The fact that relationships aren't good there is entirely on Russia. |
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| ▲ | ekall an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| You think EU should go back to building good relationships with Russia when there is an ongoing war of aggression started by them? If you really believe that and you're an EU citizen I can't help viewing you as traitorous to very foundational values the EU was created for. Absolutely disgusting. |
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| ▲ | throwaw12 an hour ago | parent [-] | | > war of aggression started by them wars in last 200 years were not started because some guy is really bad and woke up one morning to attack other state, there are things which trigger these events. Pretty sure you are taking one side in this case, and not listening to the other side, some which comes to mind: * NATO expansion - its 100% not defense only alliance, you can tweak it as much as you want, but its not. * Russian minorities were indeed killed/oppressed in some parts of the Ukraine * Maydan coup * Nord Stream blow up If you think terrorists who blew up Nord Stream should not be punished as an EU citizen, you are real traitor, because Germany invested so much money and energy to it, to boost its economy | | |
| ▲ | Tade0 an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Every point you mentioned is just parroting the Russian narrative. There's no such thing as "good trade relationships with Russia", as those that were there existed only thanks to planted agents like Gerhard Schröder. What most likely triggered this war was Putin's ambition to stay in power, as Russia never actually recovered from the 2008 crisis, so he let Medvedev handle the popularity hit associated with the first years post that. Russian agents are sabotaging European businesses as we speak - there's no getting back to whatever level of friendly relations there were before the invasion. | |
| ▲ | rcxdude an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | And yet NATO expands most readily when Russia invades another country. I wonder why nations might want in that alliance? You're just repeating Russia's justifications for their actions, which have never made sense. | |
| ▲ | watwut an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | NATO expansion was because countries begged to become members of NATO, out of fear of Russia invading them. The only reason Russia minds NATO expansion is that it prevents them from starting easy wars. |
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| ▲ | watwut an hour ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > I think EU should go back to build good relationships with Russia Kinda hard with someone trying to expand, starting wars and engaging with genocide. Literally. Being accommodating to Russia is how we got here. |