| ▲ | throwaw12 an hour ago | |
> war of aggression started by them wars in last 200 years were not started because some guy is really bad and woke up one morning to attack other state, there are things which trigger these events. Pretty sure you are taking one side in this case, and not listening to the other side, some which comes to mind: * NATO expansion - its 100% not defense only alliance, you can tweak it as much as you want, but its not. * Russian minorities were indeed killed/oppressed in some parts of the Ukraine * Maydan coup * Nord Stream blow up If you think terrorists who blew up Nord Stream should not be punished as an EU citizen, you are real traitor, because Germany invested so much money and energy to it, to boost its economy | ||
| ▲ | Tade0 an hour ago | parent | next [-] | |
Every point you mentioned is just parroting the Russian narrative. There's no such thing as "good trade relationships with Russia", as those that were there existed only thanks to planted agents like Gerhard Schröder. What most likely triggered this war was Putin's ambition to stay in power, as Russia never actually recovered from the 2008 crisis, so he let Medvedev handle the popularity hit associated with the first years post that. Russian agents are sabotaging European businesses as we speak - there's no getting back to whatever level of friendly relations there were before the invasion. | ||
| ▲ | rcxdude an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |
And yet NATO expands most readily when Russia invades another country. I wonder why nations might want in that alliance? You're just repeating Russia's justifications for their actions, which have never made sense. | ||
| ▲ | watwut an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | |
NATO expansion was because countries begged to become members of NATO, out of fear of Russia invading them. The only reason Russia minds NATO expansion is that it prevents them from starting easy wars. | ||