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| ▲ | bigiain 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | That would false positive me. I have used double dashes to delimit quote attribution for decades. Like this: "You can't believe everything you read on the internet." -- Abraham Lincoln, personal correspondence, 1863 | |
| ▲ | gblargg 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Does AI use double hyphens? I thought the point was to find who wasn't AI that used proper em dashes. | | |
| ▲ | jader201 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Anytime I do this — and I did it long before AI did — they are always em dashes, because iOS/macOS translates double dashes to em dashes. I think there may be a way to disable this, but I don’t care enough to bother. If people want to think my posts are AI generated, oh well. | | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > Anytime I do this — and I did it long before AI did — they are always em dashes It depends if you put the space before and after the dashes--that, to be clear, are meant to be there--or if you don't. | | |
| ▲ | oniony 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I cannot remember ever reading a book where there was a space around the dashes. | | |
| ▲ | kuschku 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | That depends on the language — whereas German puts spaces around —, English afaik usually doesn’t. Similarly, French puts spaces before and after ? ! while English and German only put spaces afterwards. [EDIT: I originally wrote that French treats . , ! ? specially. In reality, french only treats ? and ! specially.] | | |
| ▲ | greenicon an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | In German you use en-dashes with spaces, whereas in English it’s em-dashes without spaces. Some people dislike em-dashes in English though and use en-dashes with spaces as well. | |
| ▲ | iLoveOncall 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | French doesn't put one before the period. | |
| ▲ | bratwurst3000 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | french does "," and "." like the british and germans the rest is space befor space after |
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| ▲ | LoganDark 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Technically, there are supposed to be hair spaces around the dashes, not regular spaces. They're small enough to be sometimes confused for kerning. | | |
| ▲ | cachius 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Em dashes used as parenthetical dividers, and en dashes when used as word joiners, are usually set continuous with the text. However, such a dash can optionally be surrounded with a hair space, U+200A, or thin space, U+2009 or HTML named entities   and   These spaces are much thinner than a normal space (except in a monospaced (non-proportional) font), with the hair space in particular being the thinnest of horizontal whitespace characters. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitespace_character#Hair_spac... Typographers usually add space to the left side of the following marks: : ; ” ’ ! ? / ) ] } * ¿ › » @ ® ™ ℓ ° ¡ ' " † + = ÷ - – —
And they usually add space to the right of these: “ ‘ / ( [ { > ≥ < ≤ £ $ ¢ € ‹ « √ μ # @ + = ÷ - – —
https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2020/05/micro-typography-sp...1. (letterpress typography) A piece of metal type used to create the narrowest space.
2. (typography, US) The narrowest space appearing between letters and punctuation. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hair_space Now I'd like to see how the metal type looks like, but ehm... it's difficult googling it.
Also a whole collection of space types and what they're called in other languages. |
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| ▲ | fragmede 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | What, no love for our friend the en-dash? - vs – vs — | | |
| ▲ | chickensong 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | I once spent a day debugging some data that came from an English doc written by someone in Japan that had been pasted into a system and caused problems. Turned out to be an en-dash issue that was basically invisible to the eye. No love for en-dash! | | |
| ▲ | 1718627440 22 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | This issue also exists with (so called) "smart" quotes. | | | |
| ▲ | ben_w 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Similar. Compiler error while working on some ObjC. Nothing obviously wrong. Copy-pasted the line, same thing on the copy. Typed it out again, no issue with the re-typed version. Put the error version and the ok version next to each other, apparently identical. I ended up discovering I'd accidentally lent on the option key while pressing the "-"; Monospace font, Xcode, m-dash and minus looked identical. |
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| ▲ | teiferer 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | There is also the difference in using space around em-dashes. |
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| ▲ | venturecruelty 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Oof, I feel like you'll accidentally capture a lot of getopt_long() fans. ;) | | |
| ▲ | Kinrany 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Excluding those with asymmetrical whitespace around might be enough |
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