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Notes on Shadowing a Hospitalist(humaninvariant.substack.com)
27 points by surprisetalk 4 hours ago | 8 comments
analog31 30 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

As I'm in my 60s, I have elderly friends and relatives who have spent time in hospitals and rehab facilities. The patient needs to have an advocate who is informed of their situation and is present when the doctor makes their brief daily or weekly visit. I've seen decisions made, that contradicted the information in their "chart" such as exercise sessions for a person with a documented broken spine, treated as inviolable by the nurses and other clinical staff. Only the doctor can change the facts of the case.

What I suggest is that if you have a friend or relative visiting you, they should bring a "flip chart" -- the old fashioned 2 x 3 foot pad of paper -- and write down in huge letters the most important details of the case. Ask the doctor to help you fill it in.

andrewrn 22 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Wow. Fascinating article. I am an engineer in a family that is otherwise purely medical (mom nurse, dad pediatrician, sister veterinarian).

Over the years I hear a lot of their pain points, and EMR's are consistently very painful for my boomer parents who are not tech savvy (my understanding is that it's not an age thing, though).

I have personal experience with pt. 8: Doctors know who's good, they just won't tell you. When I had a meniscectomy with poor results, none of the orthopedists I visited after the surgery would comment even lightly on the appropriateness of that procedure given my symptoms and MRI. This isn't different to other professions, where you generally have nothing to gain from badmouthing colleagues, but its incredibly painful that thousands of people are prevented from good care because of this meritocratic breakdown.

As a totally separate point-- this format of shadowing notes in incredibly compelling! I've been shadowing chemistry and biology wet-labs lately, and I wonder if making similar writeups would be interesting to others?

AnimalMuppet 7 minutes ago | parent [-]

Nurses know, too; they just can't tell you because they are not licensed to give medical advice.

Once, in a situation when we really wanted an opinion from a nurse who wouldn't give one, we finally asked, "If it was your daughter, what would you do?" With no hesitation, she told us exactly what she would do. She just couldn't tell us what we should do.

jimnotgym 22 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Is 'Hospitalist' an American thing? I'm afraid the word grates on my European ears.

nradov 6 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Hospitalist is a recognized medical speciality with their own national society and NUCC provider taxonomy code 208M00000X.

https://www.hospitalmedicine.org/about-shm/what-is-a-hospita...

andrewrn 18 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's widely used here state-side, yeah.

01HNNWZ0MV43FF 15 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Never heard it in my part of America

AnimalMuppet 9 minutes ago | parent [-]

I have, but only because my brother-in-law is one. If he weren't, I most likely wouldn't have heard of it either.