Maybe I’m reading this wrong, but commercial use of comments is prohibited by the HN Privacy and data Policy. So is creating derivative works (so technically a vector representation)

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hammock 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Someone better go tell Open AI

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isodev 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I think a number of lawsuits are in progress of teaching them that particular lesson.

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lazide 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Still waiting for anything resembling a penalty, been a long time now. 5 years?

	▲	verdverm 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Most of the time they are hardly penalties and look more like rounding errors to these companies

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noitpmeder 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Not sure it's clear they will learn anything.... My impression was they were winning or settling these suits

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isodev 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

But is that a reason to keep doing it? Is the penalty the only reason people hold back on doing bad stuff?

	▲	pseudosavant 28 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Isn’t that basically how societies work? Different penalties, but some kind of penalties enforcing the boundaries of that society?
	▲	pessimizer 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		(Violation of HN Terms & Conditions \|\| Violation of copyright) != "bad stuff" (Violation of HN Terms & Conditions \|\| Violation of copyright) = Potential penalty
	▲	fortyseven 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Does profit outweigh the penalty?

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delichon 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Certainly it is literally derivative. But so are my memories of my time on the site. And in fact I do intend to make commercial use of some of those derivations. I believe it should be a right to make an external prosthesis for those memories in the form of a vector database.

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isodev an hour ago | parent | next [-]

That’s not the same as using it to build models. You as an individual have the right to access this content as this is the purpose of this website. The content becoming the core of some model is not.

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delichon an hour ago | parent [-]

If it's OK to encode it in your natural neural net, why is it not OK to put it in your artificial one?

	▲	godelski 25 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Let's talk after you've read all hacker news comments. Meet back here in a thousand years?
	▲	BHSPitMonkey an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		It's the same distinction as making a backup copy of a movie to your hard drive vs. redistributing it to other parties.

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2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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chasd00 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Ha I was about to ask for all my comments to be removed as a joke. I guess I don’t have to.