| ▲ | ano-ther 3 hours ago | |
I don’t get the negativity. The specs look impressive. It is always good to have competition. They announced tapeout in October with planned dev boards next year. Vaporware is when things don’t appear, not when they are on their way (it takes some time for hardware). It’s also strategically important for Europe to have its own supply. The current and last US administration have both threatened to limit supply of AI chips to European countries, and China would do the same (as they have shown with Nexperia). And of course you need the software stack with it. They will have thought of that. https://vsora.com/vsora-announces-tape-out-of-game-changing-... | ||
| ▲ | impossiblefork a few seconds ago | parent | next [-] | |
It's not just competition. These kinds of things-- cheaper-than-NVIDIA cards that can produce a lot of tokens or run large models cheaply are absolutely necessary to scale text models economically. Without things like these-- those Euclyd things, those Groq things, etc. no one will be able to offer up big models at prices where people will actually use them, so lack of things like this actually cripples training of big models too. | ||
| ▲ | vlorr an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |
The negativity doesn’t make much sense. The specs are strong, and the chip already taped out in October that’s a concrete milestone, not vaporware. Hardware of this class always takes months between tape-out and dev boards. Official announcement: https://vsora.com/vsora-announces-tape-out-of-game-changing-... Multiple independent sources confirmed the tape-out: EE Times: https://www.eetimes.eu/vsora-tapes-out-ai-inference-chip-for... L’Informaticien: https://www.linformaticien.com/magazine/infra/64028-vsora-me... Solutions Numériques: https://www.solutions-numeriques.com/vsora-franchit-un-cap-a... There’s also an industrial manufacturing partnership with GUC: https://www.design-reuse.com/news/202529700-vsora-and-guc-pa... Strategically, having a European AI inference chip matters. The US has already threatened export limits to Europe, and China has shown similar behavior (e.g., Nexperia). Building local supply is important. Calling this vaporware makes no sense: tape-out + published roadmap = real, not slides. | ||
| ▲ | jack_tripper 30 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |
>I don’t get the negativity. Where do you see the negativity? I don't believe labeling healthy skepticism and criticism as negativity to farm artificial sympathy in retaliation, does any good to anyone. Humans have pattern recognition capabilities for a reason, and if a company is triggering that in them, then it's best expressed why(probably because they saw this MO before and got burned) instead of just cheerleading the unknown for fake positivity. | ||
| ▲ | NaomiLehman 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |
im guessing the negativity is caused by bad branding | ||