| ▲ | sho_hn 2 hours ago |
| It definitely does feel like every American I know "has a therapist", sometimes. |
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| ▲ | bear141 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I used to think that therapists were ridiculous. But after having one for six or seven years now, I realize that it’s literally just someone you pay to help you be the happiest and best version of yourself. Maybe everyone doesn’t need that, but I don’t think anyone is inherently always the best version of themselves. What’s the point of not trying to be a little better? |
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| ▲ | saghm 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I feel like the world would be a much better place if literally everyone did have a therapist. Having a neutral, trained professional you talk you for 45 minutes twice a month about things that are tough in your life is not something that should alarm people, but being vehemently against it honestly kind of is... | |
| ▲ | Cthulhu_ an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The main issue is that therapy is expensive, and it's very middle-class to have the money to afford one long-term like that. Working class people have had to suck it up, or (preferably) have a good support network themselves. While I am inclined to agree that most people would benefit from having a professional to talk to, it'd need to be economically viable as well. But we're seeing this happening in real time; on the one side there's lower cost online councelling available (but whether that's actually certified professionals is debatable), and on the other ChatGPT became the biggest and most popular therapist almost overnight. But again, not sure if it has the necessary certifications, I suppose it's believable enough. I also want to believe OpenAI and all the other AI suppliers have hired professionals to direct the "chatbot as therapist" AI persona, especially now that the lawsuits for people losing their sanity or life after talking to AI are gaining traction. | |
| ▲ | flatline an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I have been in therapy on and off through most of my life. There are parts of the process and the profession that are helpful. There are also parts that are paternalistic bordering on abusive. “Literally just someone you pay to the be happiest…” is a small part of the picture. I take issue with this view of therapy, and the idea that it is somehow a universal force for good that will benefit everyone. I have met some pretty unhinged therapists - both as a client and socially. I won’t even go into the history of psychiatry and clinical care. One of the questions I like to pose is, what are we doing as a society by sending so many people to therapy? What do these practices do at a large scale? And to all those who decry things like gun violence: if you think our current mental health system would somehow be able to address the larger ills of society if only they had more funding, I have some serious questions about your view of its overarching effectiveness, and the specific effects of these practices. | |
| ▲ | 21asdffdsa12 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | The digestion juices of individualistic society? |
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| ▲ | n4r9 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| How is it different to having a personal trainer for your physical fitness? |
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| ▲ | Cthulhu_ an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | In theory, at one point people will be done with therapy. I think a better analogy is a physical therapist; you go to one because of an injury. A personal trainer is for boosting your physical health / performance. For mental health, you'd get a coach, training, or read one of many self-help books, not a therapist. | | |
| ▲ | pxc 19 minutes ago | parent [-] | | There are multiple kinds of psychological counseling. Some "supportive therapy" really is more of an ongoing thing, like having a personal trainer. Some kinds of psychological therapy always aim to have a terminus, like physical therapy. |
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| ▲ | sho_hn an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Having a personal trainer for your physical fitness is something I'd expect a very low percentage of very wealthy individuals to have access to. Therapy appears to be more prevalent. | | |
| ▲ | n4r9 40 minutes ago | parent [-] | | By "personal trainer" I just mean someone that you pay for a training session 1-3x per week. It's a comparable expense to therapy (depending on qualifications etc...). |
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| ▲ | null_deref 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| What do you mean by “has a therapist”? Do they just mention it in passing, or do they bring up takeaways from their sessions in everyday conversation?
If it’s the latter, I’m not sure that’s really about mental-health openness. It feels more like a broader social habit, the need to present yourself as someone who’s constantly working on every aspect of your life. That’s a different modern-society quirk altogether. |
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| ▲ | GJim an hour ago | parent | prev [-] |
| I recall when I first visited the USA and walked into an American bookshop... ... the selves of 'self-help' books I found utterly bizarre. It was very much an eye-opener into the differences of our cultures. |
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| ▲ | zozbot234 an hour ago | parent [-] | | "Self-help" is more like a modern folk religion than anything to do with actual psychology. |
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