Has union labor resulted in measurable improvement in production outcomes in any industry they’re found in? I don’t think going from “managers are unaccountable for failure” to “nobody is accountable for failure” is a good thing.

I think introducing more competition at higher levels may be better than eliminating it below. This should be happening because I’m pretty sure most PMs could be replaced by an LLM.

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pdimitar 18 hours ago | parent | next [-]

How about we transition from “managers are unaccountable for failure” to “managers are accountable for every failure by default and are sued and have houses confiscated within two months of a case being open”? That must include CEOs as well though, not just some bootlicker PMs.

Executives are generally incompetent everywhere and of course they'll introduce a reality distortion field where none of them are ever accountable. That should be obvious to anyone. Question is why do all working people keep allowing it to happen. But the answer to that is also known and quite depressing, too.

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BeFlatXIII 14 hours ago | parent [-]

In a world like that, I hope it becomes standard practice to shoot at and bomb the repo men.

	▲	pdimitar 14 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Of course every manager would want that. Who wants responsibility and taking care of their reports anyway.

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__loam 21 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Have you done any research into this or are you just assuming unions lead to bad outcomes because you've been propagandized for decades about it?

> This should be happening because I’m pretty sure most PMs could be replaced by an LLM

Says a lot about your understanding of these things.

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pdimitar 18 hours ago | parent [-]

While I too doubt that unions would be a net negative and I might even suspect interference by paid malicious actors to discourage people to unionize and thus never have power, I can't agree with your skepticism that PMs cannot be replaced by LLMs.

Most PMs I've ever met had zero clue what they are doing. And no it's not only N=1 sample, same anecdote is heard from many, many other people.

But sadly enough, undeniable human incompetence there is not even the biggest problem. The "we will never make more reasonable deadline" is.

Most managers, not just PMs, are an objective net negative. As any ruling class always does, they get complacent and think that just putting their foot down is going to magically change reality.

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parineum 13 hours ago | parent [-]

> Most PMs I've ever met had zero clue what they are doing. And no it's not only N=1 sample, same anecdote is heard from many, many other people.

Most people say that because they have no idea what a PM's job is and are upset that the PM isn't doing what they want.

	▲	pdimitar 12 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Highly irrelevant. Not my role as an individual contributor to hone and fine-tune their job description. Fact on the ground is that they usually optimize the entirely wrong indicators and never ever optimize for avoiding future problems. In my consulting and contracting stints I made it a habit to write down what crisis is looming on the horizon and making bets with my wife which one is going to arrive first. A fun little game. Watching train wrecks in slow motion stopped being fun with time. What PM's job is is above my pay grade. I want them to enable me and the team, not be a mouth piece of people with zero understanding of product _and_ of engineering. They are just there to ask you how is stuff going.