We homeschooled. When we wanted to socialize our kids, we shoved them into the restroom and beat them up for their lunch money.

I kid, but there's a real point: So much of the socialization is bad.

More: Kids aren't going to be kids forever. Does socialization with a bunch of other kids prepare them for the adult society that they're going to go into?

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missedthecue 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This is my perspective too. A bunch of 11 year olds raising your 11 year old doesn't always result in preferable outcomes. I think the other part of it is that a lot of people have this sort of idea that homeschooling means sitting in your kid in the basement in front of their homework and never seeing the light of day. Obviously that's not accurate.

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adamredwoods 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

As a parent, your view of socialization being "good" or "bad" is heavily distorted. I think of socialization (I am a parent) as a neutral activity, sometimes a skill, although I really don't think it's needed as we live in a mostly secluded society in the US, and verbal communication has been supplanted by electronic means.

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estearum a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Well it should, yes, given that socialization is the result of shared social experiences.

Experiencing bullying is (unironically) one of those shared social experiences that create bonds with people (whether as victim, perpetrator, or witness)

These are real social dynamics that actually exist in adult life, and I suspect people who are totally blindsided by them are maladapted

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JumpCrisscross a day ago | parent | next [-]

> Experiencing bullying is (unironically) one of those shared social experiences

It also teaches you to deal with bullies. That said, we had homeschooled kids in my Boy Scouts troop. They learned how to deal with bullies just fine.

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somanyphotons 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Kids (and teachers) generally don't deal with bullies well.

It really just results in them continuing to being bullied, or reacting badly and getting blamed themselves.

	▲	JumpCrisscross 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> Kids (and teachers) generally don't deal with bullies well Are there studies on whether bullying is higher in lightly supervised versus moderately supervised groups? Or mixed-age versus single-age groups? Scouting is lightly-supervised mixed-age groups. If an older kid bullied a younger kid, that resulted in adults reading them the riot act. But if a younger kid bullied a younger kid, the two sort of wound up sorting it out until someone threw a punch or pissed off an older kid. (For being annoying.) That second dynamic was, to my memory, unique to mixed-age groups.

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oceanplexian 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Why would you need to learn to deal with bullies?

If you try that the modern world as an adult you get charged with aggravated assault, pick up a criminal record and then are weeded out from polite society.

	▲	JumpCrisscross 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> Why would you need to learn to deal with bullies? Because bullying is an extreme example of a common human power dynamic. > If you try that the modern world as an adult you get charged with aggravated assault, pick up a criminal record and then are weeded out from polite society Fair enough. I was thinking exclusively of non-violent bullying. (It may get physical. But in a roughhousing way. Not one intended to cause pain or injury.)

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balamatom 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>(whether as victim, perpetrator, or witness)

Watch it, you almost said "rescuer" there.