| ▲ | 0xfeba 7 hours ago |
| > Lately, I see a lot of drivers who turn on their brights and just leave them on and this includes cars with the older halogen and even incandescents. This is a change in behavior. This is one of my pet peeves. I've categorized it into what I believe are the main causes: 1. People just don't know as well today that the blue indicator means you're blinding people 2. People with newer cars which will automatically turn off the headlights, including the brights, when you turn off and leave the car. 3. People with older cars where the low-beams are burned out or broken I've been tempted to purchase digital billboard space to raise awareness. Eg., "If this blue indicator is on, you're blinding everyone". And/or, get a mirror on my trunk that I can adjust the angle of from inside the cabin to reflect back high-beams at the driver. Mostly I'm hoping that automatic high-beams, like some Ford trucks I've seen do well, proliferate more! |
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| ▲ | pksebben 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I have become an aggressive counter-flasher. This has yielded in some cases new knowledge - that the low beams of a lot of cars these days look like high beams (indicated when they flash back, and it's the brightness of a thousand suns). For those behind me, I've discovered that my side mirror has an angle where it reliably bounces the beams back. I've gotten more than a couple of drivers to turn their beams down with this method (but they have to be tailgating for it to work, which usually means we're already in an adversarial situation). |
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| ▲ | aceazzameen 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Haha I've also angled my side mirror out of my eyes, which incidentally is back towards the car behind me. I of course angle it back if I need to change lanes, but it's such an annoying thing I have to do just to see the road ahead of me. At this point I put full blame on car manufacturers and lack of government regulation and enforcement. Lights will keep getting brighter because lights are getting brighter. It's a death spiral. | | |
| ▲ | johnmaguire 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | My 2017 Ford Fusion has an auto-dimming driver side mirror. I hate driving a car at night without this. |
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| ▲ | notyourwork 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | That indicates the low beams are incorrectly adjusted. | | |
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| ▲ | pipes 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I might just be getting old, but more and more I see people not using indicators and not understanding the rules of junctions. Tail gating also really annoying. I was in a mates car recently and it scared the hell out of me, he was tail gating for most of a 3 hour journey. Eventually we got to a bit with chevrons and he wasn't obeying the rule staying N chevrons away from the car in front. I told him and he replied "nonsense, my car beeps if I'm too close to the car in front" I didn't have the energy to point out that is a collision warning not a safe distance measurer type device. |
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| ▲ | ash_091 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The recommended 3 second gap is a much bigger distance than most people recognise, especially at high speed. On another note- I feel sad that you could tell your mate "the way you're driving is making me uncomfortable" and be met with basically "your discomfort isn't valid because [technology] so I won't change my behaviour". | | |
| ▲ | MichaelBurjack 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | As someone who continues to mask in public shared-air settings for my own health, I am entirely unsurprised by that response and get it all the time. Recently heard from a friend that also continues to mask when sharing air, they had arranged car pooling for one of their children. And just this morning the other parent texted saying "your child wearing a mask makes me uncomfortable so we can no longer car pool". So … yeah. Entirely unsurprised by that attitude. "Every person for themselves but also not if it's something I personally dislike." | | |
| ▲ | alehlopeh an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Isn’t all air shared? | | |
| ▲ | MichaelBurjack an hour ago | parent [-] | | Not in a way meaningful to assessing infectious risk, no. I consider outdoor air to be unshared, except in cases of large dense crowds (such as say outdoor festivals or sporting events). I consider risky shared air to be indoor air with one or more other individuals that are not known to be taking infection-prevention precautions. One can measure CO₂ as a proxy to rebreathed air fraction. For example, a CO₂ reading of 2300ppm (common in a small or medium room with a few others, or larger rooms with a crowd or conference room, or in a car) means 5% of your air is rebreathed (5% of your intake is output from another person's lungs). A way to think about this is we take ~20 breaths a minute on average. So in that scenario, it would be equivalent to one breath every minute coming directly from someone else's lungs. If they happen to be contagious with an airborne contagion (such as Covid, or influenza, or RSV), there's a high likelihood that you will catch it if you're spending more than a short time in that environment. There are nuances, such as maybe the air is being scrubbed (eg by a HEPA filter) which won't affect the CO₂ levels but will drastically lower the infectious risk of that environment. More reading: https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/what-a-carbon-dioxide-mo... |
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| ▲ | pipes 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Genuine question (as in not a passive aggressive question!) why do you and your friends child mask? | | |
| ▲ | MichaelBurjack 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Not sure why you'd ask me that vs. use Google, feels like cornering a random driver to defend "Why do you use seatbelts?". But I'll offer one reply at your word that it's genuine and not passive-aggressive. 1. I am currently dealing with the after-effects of a previous Covid infection that requires expensive, ongoing medical treatment. I'm not anxious to test what additional infections may cause. 2. Wearing an N95 respirator is a cheap and easy preventative measure that is highly effective. 3. I adjust my habits based on measured risk. In my part of the world (Alberta), the current risk forecast for November 8-21 is that approximately 1 in every 81 people are currently infected with Covid. I relax my masking when it's 1 in 10,000 or less (which is not an unreasonable number; it's been there in the past). 4. Recent medical studies suggest that repeated Covid exposure is particularly harmful for children. Long Covid is now the #1 chronic condition in children in the US (displacing asthma as the top chronic childhood condition). As a parent, I see it as my responsibility to give my children the best chance at a long, healthy, medical-intervention-free life. A few links (or just use Google): - Covid monitoring in Canada: https://covid19resources.ca/ - Long Covid overtaking asthma as top childhood chronic illness: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/... - Rolling Stone on Covid's affects on children: https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/long-c... - Remarks by Violet Affleck: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBTjCqIxorw - Tom Hanks: https://whn.global/youve-got-a-friend-in-me-tom-hanks-shows-... - A longer answer than mine: https://whn.global/yes-we-continue-wearing-masks/ |
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| ▲ | throwaway2037 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | > As someone who continues to mask in public shared-air settings for my own health
Do you have some special medical condition? Or is this just HN personal health craziness? Do you also wear a helmet when you drive a car? Do you wear body armour when you ride a bicycle or walk on a sidewalk? | | |
| ▲ | MichaelBurjack an hour ago | parent [-] | | Do you always look that stupid? Or only when the lights are on? Go away throwaway2037, your cowardice isn't welcome here. |
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| ▲ | pipes 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yes on your last point, I feel exactly the same way. If anyone told me I was driving too fast and they were uncomfortable I'd immediately be apologetic and slow down, and I'd genuinely feel bad about it. As I get older I've realised that most people in my life react negatively if I express emotion that what they are doing is upsetting. It is only recently that I've realised my sample size is small and this kind of gas lighting behaviour is not ok. I've actually reached a point where I'm thankful that the internet popularised the phrase because it had helped me diagnose shitty behaviour that I've tolerated my whole life. |
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| ▲ | BrenBarn 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I'd say just in general people have become way more cavalier and oblivious as drivers. I frequently see people doing wild stuff like driving at night with no headlights, or driving for several blocks in a bike lane. Every single yellow light is pushed to the limit, with often at least one (and sometimes multiple) drivers running the red light as well. I feel like a lot of is connected to a more general post-COVID decline in awareness of how one's actions affect others. People are just fine with doing anything they can get away with. I suspect the trend won't be reversed without a major increase in enforcement. | | |
| ▲ | jackvalentine 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | I’ve noticed the same, and also people’s behaviour generally everywhere has bottomed out and not recovered. I was speaking to an ED nurse who said people have just forgotten how to relate and violence is through the roof every night in the hospital. Did we all get subtle brain damage? | | |
| ▲ | _carbyau_ 38 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I put it down to cost of living pressures. "politeness" goes to the wayside when "shit has to happen". |
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| ▲ | abustamam 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Wow this gives me anxiety just reading. My 2012 BMW has a warning everytime I turn it on. "DO NOT RELY ON BEEPS" (I'm paraphrasing of course.) And yeah, I don't let tooling on my car replace common sense driving habits. I still turn my head when reversing, even if I can see what's behind me on the camera. I think it's crazy that people rely so much on unreliable tech on their cars. | |
| ▲ | paradox460 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | My favorite is that if you try to follow a safe distance, some jerk will immediately move to fill the space | | | |
| ▲ | wat10000 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | People just don’t care about driving. I get it. Maybe you're not interested in it. You’re at A, you want to arrive at B, and driving is just your tool for getting there. But to misquote Trotsky, you may not be interested in driving, but driving is interested in you. Driving is the most dangerous thing most drivers do on a regular basis. Probably by a significant margin. Even if you hate it, respect it. Put in the effort to do it well. |
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| ▲ | LeifCarrotson 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| My other pet peeve is the opposite - they've got LED daytime running lights, and use those instead of headlights. They're driving around at 11pm with no taillights and abysmal forward lighting, but there's enough of a glow from the DRLs that they assume their lights are on. Or worse, they're accustomed to "automatic" lights and don't even know where the switch is, so they're driving around at dusk or in fog, rain, or snow in a white, gray, or black vehicle without their lights on. I have also been tempted to purchase digital billboard space, but not on the side of the road. I want LED signs on my roof rack (one forward, one back) with column or two of buttons on the dash to call up a slate of messages: 1. TURN YOUR BRIGHTS OFF! BLUE MEANS BLINDING. 1b. OW! YOUR HEADLIGHTS ARE MISALIGNED. 2. TURN YOUR HEADLIGHTS ON! THOSE ARE DRLs. 3. TURN LIGHTS ON TO BE SEEN EVEN IF IT'S NOT DARK. 4. MY SAFE FOLLOWING DISTANCE IS NOT A SPOT FOR YOU. 5. YOU ARE TAILGATING. I WILL NOT SPEED FOR YOU. 6. YIELD DOES NOT MEAN STOP. 7. I AM ZIPPER MERGING, NOT CUTTING THE LINE. 8. DRIVE CAREFULLY! I JUST SAW A DEER. 9. GO AHEAD, I SEE YOU. 10. YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOUR VEHICLE, PULL OVER. 11. THANK YOU! Plus a few spare slots to be implemented as needs arise. I've been unimpressed with the automatic high-beams on my wife's newer Toyota and on other rentals I've driven, they usually depend on a direct line-of-sight to the other car's headlights, which means they stay on just long enough to hit the windshield of another car cresting a hill and blind them. Then they courteously turn off a few camera frames and vision analyses after the low beams become visible. If a __competent__ driver is controlling the high/low beams manually, they'll see the headlights of the other car illuminating the trees and such and turn off the high beams a couple critical seconds earlier. But I admit that the automatic systems are miles better at managing it than the __incompetent__ drivers who are all too common. |
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| ▲ | boogieknite 40 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | if you ever visit Portland make one up reading YOU HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY. drivers keep it weird here by ignoring the rules of the road for some kind of "no no i insist, after you" as if theyre giving some gift, but instead just confuse everyone if im biking and waiting at a stop sign: without fail, the last car in a long line of cars will slam on the breaks and insist i go when they have no stop sign. it would have been faster for everyone if they just kept driving and i cross after they pass, like the rules of the road prescribe | |
| ▲ | webnrrd2k 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | This hit on a peeve of mine, that automatic high beam systems really suck for pedestrians. Manual control is genuinely better in this regard. Try walking around at night in a wealthy neighborhood, and about 1/8 of the cars just blind every pedestrian. | |
| ▲ | Dylan16807 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | #3 sounds like you're either nitpicking or maybe having an eye issue? #7 You're either doing something good or something very bad, so I hope it's the former. If you're trying to pace the lane next to you, then it sounds like it's at least an honest attempt to get things zipper merging. If you're telling yourself that cars need to be in both lanes to zipper merge, while zooming to the end and then hoping maybe a zipper merge will happen, you're getting a big benefit to yourself while still causing slowdown for everyone else. | | |
| ▲ | randerson 25 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | #3 Plenty of drivers have difficulty spotting a gray/silver/black car under low or high-contrast lighting. Highly visible colors (yellow, orange, white) have a 7-12% lower chance of getting into an accident during the day and up to 47% lower at dusk.[0] Keeping your headlights on at all times reduces this risk. #7 In many states (e.g. [1]) if two lanes are merging you're expected to merge at the last possible point. This allows more cars to fit on the road to reduce congestion, and it reduces sudden stops. [0] https://www.monash.edu/__data/assets/pdf_file/0007/216475/An... [1] https://wsdot.wa.gov/travel/traffic-safety-methods/work-zone... | |
| ▲ | jaapz 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Regarding #3, in the EU it is normal to have lights on even when it's not dark. Some countries even mandate it. You're just more visible that way. |
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| ▲ | gorgoiler 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | 12. YES I KNOW THIS IS A GAS STATION AND I COULD JUST WALK OVER AND TELL YOU BUT THIS SIGN THING I MADE IS WAY MORE FUN. | |
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| ▲ | sneak 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | You forgot THE LEFTMOST LANE IS FOR BRIEF PASSING, NOT DRIVING | | |
| ▲ | belorn 12 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | The rule for the leftmost lane is that you must not block for other drivers. It is in the rule book (at least in my country). That mean in very clear terms that if you can't do the overtaking in a timely fashion without blocking other drivers, then you should not enter the left lane. If there is one thing that tend to cause conflict and trigger dangerous situations in traffic, it is when someone driving at 0.001% faster than the next car enter left lane while maintaining the exact same speed, basically matching the speed on the right. That is just as illegal as speeding. | |
| ▲ | quadyeast 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I'm often on highways were the left lane, for many miles, is the only one without potholes and broken road. | | |
| ▲ | pixl97 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Then when there's another person behind you, get over in the right and let them pass. |
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| ▲ | Dylan16807 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Eh. If there's a speed limit and the left lane is 5+ over it, what's the benefit of keeping it empty? | | |
| ▲ | scotty79 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | If everybody left it, it wouldn't be going 5+ over limit and then it could serve the people who are serious about breaking the law and go big. ... Oh, wait... |
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| ▲ | NietzscheanNull 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > I've been tempted to purchase digital billboard space to raise awareness. Ironically, digital billboards are often 10x more obnoxious than even LED high beams in my area (and those are plenty awful, FWIW). We've got a few nearby that are so bright they could be used as stadium lighting when they're set to white. Naturally, half the ads running on them feature a white background, so it's like a stadium light that flips on and off every 15 seconds. Considering they're pointed directly at drivers' faces, I genuinely don't understand why there isn't more opposition to them; they're absolutely blinding. I'm seriously considering bugging local and state reps about it until they pass light intensity ordinances in my area. |
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| ▲ | japhyr 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > Mostly I'm hoping that automatic high-beams, like some Ford trucks I've seen do well, proliferate more! I have a 2021 Tacoma, and its automatic high-beam adjustment is terrible. It does a reasonable job of turning high beams off when a car approaches, but it has a number of problems that make it unusable. After the car passes it waits too long to reactivate the high beams. That's when they're needed most; my eyes have already adjusted to the other car's headlights, now the road is dark again, and I'm still on low beams. It's way too sensitive. When a car approaches from a long ways away, it sometimes turns high beams off for minutes at a time. It turns them off when there are widely-spaced streetlights on long empty rural highways. I finally took the time to figure out where the switch is to turn off automatic high-beam adjustment. I do a much better job knowing when to dim and reactive the lights than the vehicle does. |
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| ▲ | bespokedevelopr 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Maybe it’s an overcorrection because the Tacoma I had, a couple years older than yours, had auto high beams and they would just stay on all the time. They only turned off from reflecting on road signs or when a car was only a few lengths away approaching. Quickly found the button to disable that feature. The feature seems to be poorly implemented by all manufacturers. I see Teslas driving around flashing high beams every night because they trigger on/off really quickly and the drivers seem oblivious to the rapid change. | |
| ▲ | VBprogrammer 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I dunno, maybe where you live is a lot flatter than the roads that I drive on, but the instant I see a car coming the other way (ideally before they come into direct view) is the time to turn off full beams. Though from a game theory point of view, leaving them on for a couple of seconds is probably ideal to remind anyone who forgets to dim their own headlights. | | |
| ▲ | japhyr 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | I live near mountains, rolling hills, and lots of farmland. There are many stretches where you can see a car coming from a mile away, long before anyone's high beams are noticeable. But in that darkness, my truck picks up those headlights and dims the high beams. | | |
| ▲ | VBprogrammer 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Hmm, I mostly drive in the English countryside where most often there are hills and bends, bushes and trees, houses and hedgerows. Seeing another car a mile away would probably mean both are heading into a wide valley, in which case the geometry makes it less important. That said, I'm still not convinced your truck isn't doing the right thing. Even a mile a way you've got perhaps 30 seconds before you are passing each other. Is there much to be gained by leaving them on for a few more seconds? Seeing another car heading towards me is a much clearer and less likely to be forgotten trigger than "ok, about now my lights are probably getting annoying". |
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| ▲ | asdefghyk 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| RE ".... get a mirror on my trunk that I can adjust the angle of from inside the cabin to reflect back high-beams at the driver. ...." I had this idea too this annoyance too - but never implemented it. One way to implement would be to mount a thin object , like a toothpick thickness and 1 or 2 cm long say on the mirror 90 degrees vertically to mirror surface , then (auto? ) adjust so their is no shadow from car's headlights that is behind. Like lots of my other ideas , when i search for them , they already exist .maybe this one too Found similar ideas already exist for car rear view mirrors .... ie Google finds ... ".... auto-dimming rearview mirror automatically adjusts to reduce glare from incident light by using sensors and an electrochromic gel layer...."
However my google of words "...auto adjust reflecting mirror to face incident light...." FInd there is much discussion on Faceboot and REddit for people asking for "...mirrors that reflect very bright high been lights BACK at the driver BEHIND ...: Could not find a implementation though ... Maybe it should be an Arduino project .... |
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| ▲ | gorgoiler 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Automatic high beams only dip for other cars. They don’t dip for bicycles or pedestrians. Those walking or cycling by the road do not even register. Pure hubris. |
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