Regarding Robot, I think that it's completely fine for what it is. I almost never interact with it, and instead just configure my server as I see fit over ssh. Hetzner's value proposition is extremely cheap no frills servers -- you're paying for the server, not the management interface. If you want management interfaces that do a lot of useful work, use a cloud.

Does each container network of the 256 really need its own /64? Is there some constraint that doesn't let them work on a /72?

Why do you need ipv6 on your internal network? Is 10/8 really not enough/overlap? For 99.99% of people it's fine for the internal interfaces and if anything actually simplifies configuration.

I disable IPv6 and I’m somewhat scared of the concept of having containers with public IPs.

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I think a lot of the following comes the old-fashioned nature. In an age of hyperscalers that want to sell you a private cloud and full stack certification to make it your job to use their software and want to charge you $500/mo for a server with 64GB of ram and decent bandwidth, Hetzner will just rent you a server, relatively cheap.

Amazon has _95 pages_ of EC2 instance types. They have so many products that I literally had to google the name to know what product type to put into the estimator to get a boring server.

What's all that data center best practice get you[1], the customer, if it doesn't provide lower prices and higher availability?

[1] -- I'm assuming you are not Netflix. After some scale all those crazy AWS services are pretty great to have.

Same old world thinking.. Google use single PSUs too, real redundancy came from having multiple machines, and Hetzner certainly makes that cheap enough to accomplish on a budget. You can also pay for 10 Gbit as an option with Hetzner, and a bunch of other custom upgrades, but the further you move outside their sweet spot the more it's going to cost.

25 Gigabit networking is mentioned in the video. As for the low density, it might have something to do with their mentioned freecooling concept, which does not use cooling machines, but a controlled stream of air coming from outside.

"Mittelstand" in Germany seems to be roughly: below 500 Employees, below 50 Million € turnover. Hetzner makes more like 400 Million € turnover but with 300 Employees. So it's technically above it but they are propably a very tight margin buisness. As such i'd say yes.

> I wish they would go public.

I wish that they'll just keep on running a good profitable business without going public, or getting bought by Amazon, or otherwise shifting focus to providing shareholder value.

Why in the world would one want a company like this to go public? They are a very stable, established and profitable private entity. Based on what Hetzner is doing right now, it seems like the current way of operating that is intended by the leadership is closely aligned with what their customers want. This is often the first thing that goes out the window once a company becomes public

Why would you want a company you like to go public? To keep chasing profits to the detriment of everything else?

> I wish they would go public.

If they go public they will be bought by foreign private equity.

The last thing we need is more enshitification on this space.

I just migrated my selfhosted email server to Hetzner and I don't want them turning into monstrosity like AWS or Azure, with theit miriad of ways to nickel and dime the customers.

The comparison with OVH is a good one. For some reason OVH has much worse PUE, self-reporting 1.24 vs. Hetzner's 1.11. Operating costs are basically just electricity for these places, so their margins are that much worse.

For further comparison, Google at a similar latitude in Saint-Ghislain, Belgium, claims 1.08.

Damn Americans, can't think of anything other than "I wish I could make a buck off this, idgaf if it gets destroyed in the process".

Yes I agree, we need more public companies in Europe.

Private companies are inherently less social since they don’t allow ordinary people to participate in growth.

In this sense, they’re selfish.

PS: yes I know that there are also downsides to public companies. But looking at the trade-offs I prefer that success can be shared as broadly as possible.