> If US Trade Office can be leveraged to destroy internet censorship efforts in other countries, then so be it.

...But, of course, US corporations enforcing the same kind of censoring is a-OK, because corporations are people and their censorship is free speech.

I'll be open to your posititon the day Boticelli's Venus doesn't get censored on FB because there's a pair of tits somewhere on the painting.

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RobKohr 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

Facebook is a single website. Other websites can host it just fine.

This is the same as blocking content on your own forum or comment section on your blog. Yes fb is huge, but still just a website, and one with fading popularity.

Blocking ips on a network level is different.

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ozgrakkurt 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

Facebook isn’t just a website. Like whatsapp isn’t just a messaging app and visa/mastercard aren’t just some of the credit card companies.

	▲	grayhatter 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		I see the comparison you're trying to draw, and I don't agree. People use FB because other people use it. There's a lot more complexity, and algorithm fuled habits. But in the end, FB provides the service of communication and content recommendations. Using that attention, it can sell ads. Without that willingness to give attention, they can't sell ads. There are no significant hurdles to starting a social media site. Credit card processors facilitate payments from one group to a different group. They aren't an endpoint, they are middle men. They don't need to court the attention of users, they are in a position of power it where they can interfere with the lives of others, and have formed a coalition with a total monopoly over the digital trade of money. Good luck starting a competitor while attempting to shun PCI compliance. If I never use FB, I can still interact with friends, family, buy and sell ads. If I never use a credit card... I've been cut off from the vast majority of the things that I would buy. It's reasonable for different rules to apply to groups with vastly different powers. I wouldn't expect Google to be held to the same standard that I hold PG&E. Nor would I hold PG&E to the same restrictions I'd place on Google.

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robocat 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> fading popularity

You made that up, or you checked stats?

A quick Google says that Facebook is still growing at about 5% and that Meta revenue is up a lot.

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iwontberude 3 days ago | parent [-]

Facebook MAU is down from 3.65 B to 3.06 B in the last year

	▲	robocat 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		Yet I just found an article that said that MAU was 3.065 in 2023 and 2024 and 3.07 in 2025 (i.e. MAU is flat not decreasing). Did you drop a zero? AFAIK there is no consensus that Facebook usage is declining - however that narritive gets told by people. Of course, it might depend on which country you look at.

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pjc50 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Not to mention that several US states have various sorts of adult content bans.

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iamnothere 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Whataboutism. I am no fan of CF or current US trade policy, but I’ll take whatever wins we can get when it comes to internet freedom.

	▲	pyrale 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		There is no win in using this administration to strong-arm other countries into giving tech corps some sort of extraterritoriality. Yes, Spain is screwing up. But it is the responsibility of Spanish electors to fix the mess. Any alternative involving the US department of State should be fought.