| ▲ | Refund requests flood Microsoft after tricking users into AI upgrades(afr.com) | |||||||||||||
| 65 points by speckx 21 hours ago | 16 comments | ||||||||||||||
| ▲ | k310 20 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||
May I recommend Libre Office? [0] For casual/home use, it should meet needs. Free, no subscription. Spreadsheet can collaborate. [1] Collabra Office seems to be the port of LibreOffice to ios. (free) Look it up on the app store. > Collabora Office is a text editor, spreadsheet and presentation program based on LibreOffice, the world's most popular Open Source office suite - and now it's on iOS, enhancing your possibilities to work on mobile devices. Collaborative versions, a.k.a. Collabra online are available, but hosting is never free. But TBH, I am your "more casual than casual" office suite user and the bundled Apple apps do my minimal office tasks, and are compatible with MS formats. [0] https://www.libreoffice.org/ [1] https://help.libreoffice.org/latest/en-US/text/shared/guide/... | ||||||||||||||
| ▲ | qubex 21 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||
I’m furious that there’s apparently no way to even downgrade if you’re an iOS/iPadOS Office 365 subscriber as I am. Co-pilot isn’t only useless, it’s an actively hostile encumbrance I’d pay good money to rid myself of. | ||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | antonyh 21 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||
I 'cancelled' down to a non-AI family sub, but ended up full cancelling before the kick-in date for the annual renewal. I'm done with the nonsense and dark patterns. The shenanigans has worn thin. I'm tired of the price hikes for AI - if it was good enough without AI, it's should be optional and a separate sub. It's an enhancement not a core feature. | ||||||||||||||
| ▲ | Molitor5901 20 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||
I loathe copilot and have reverted to using an old version of Outlook desktop, which I then had to regedit to remove copilot buttons etc. It's a horrible product being shoved down our throats. | ||||||||||||||
| ▲ | tech234a 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||
I can confirm that Microsoft used a similar tactic in the US. I was only aware of it because I had seen some news articles at the beginning of the year, I doubt most people who don’t read tech news would have been aware of this. | ||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | nticompass 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||
> Microsoft said in a statement it regretted the way it handled the situation. Is there _actual_ regret here, or is it more of a "sorry we got caught" type of thing? | ||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | skywhopper 21 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||
I remember when this came up and you had to go the “cancel” route to get back to the normal pricing. Tip to product folks: if you have to hide the cheap option to get people to choose plan with more features, you’ve failed at your jobs. Choosing this path is lazy, cynical, unethical, and in a just world, criminal. | ||||||||||||||
| ▲ | ZeroConcerns 20 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||
Yeah, well, that seems entirely unsurprising. Despite nominally being "on the Microsoft platform", I don't see many results from their "AI strategy", and what I do see is entirely underwhelming: -The Copilot key on all my recent laptops literally does nothing, other than pop up a preferences dialog that allows me to choose between 'None', 'Search' (which just redirects to a Bing-Webview-from-hell) and 'Custom' (which just informs me that I have no suitable providers installed). So, yeah, 'None' it is! -The Copilot button dropdown on my MacOS 'New Outlook' (the only platform on which that is slightly usable) displays an empty menu. Asking web-based Copilot about that, its response is "yeah, well, that is quite a tease, isn't it"... Uhhhm, sure? -Copilot code completions in Visual Studio only ensure a quick trip to disable them. I mean, maybe 5% of the time they're topical, but the remaining 95% is just cases of it trying to insert 20+ lines whenever I make a simple typo. I mean, really? But, yeah, I guess we're stuck with this kind of nonsense for the foreseeable future, until it starts to hurt. But, that might be a while... | ||||||||||||||
| ▲ | BewareTheYiga 21 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||
Was this just a dark pattern or did they flat out hide the classic option? | ||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | qwertyuiop_ 20 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||
But AI is not a bubble. | ||||||||||||||