| ▲ | user_7832 18 hours ago | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> RadiantOS treats your computer as an extension of your mind. It’s designed to capture your knowledge, habits, and workflows at the system layer. Data is interlinked like a personal wiki, not scattered across folders. This sounded really interesting... till I read this: > It’s an AI-native operating system. Artificial neural networks are built in and run locally. The OS understands what applications can do, what they expose, and how they fit together. It can integrate features automatically, without extra code. AI is used to extend your ability, help you understand the system and be your creative aid. (From https://radiant.computer/system/os/) That's... kind of a wierd thing to have? Other than that, it actually looks nice. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | glenstein 17 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I actually don't mind it necessarily. I wonder if the medium-far future of software is a ground-level AI os that spins up special purpose applications on the fly in real time. What clashes for me is that I don't see how that has anything to do with the mission statement about getting away from social media and legacy hardware support. In fact it seems kind of diametrically opposite, suggesting intentionally hand crafted, opinionated architecture and software principles. Nothing about the statement would have lead me to believe that AI is the culmination of the idea. And again, the statement itself I am fine with! In fact I am against the culture of reflex backlash to vision statements and new ventures. But I did not take the upshot of this particular statement to be that AI was the culmination of the vision. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | ndiddy 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Most of the text on the site seems LLM written as well. Given that the scope of the project involves making their own programming language, OS, and computing hardware, but they don't seem to have made very much tangible progress towards these goals, I don't understand why they decided to spend time making a fancy project site before they have anything to show. It makes me doubt that this will end up going anywhere. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | 7thaccount 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Same. I was super excited until I saw the AI stuff you pointed out. I'll have to read more about that. I like the idea of a new OS that isn't just a Linux clone, networking stack that is old school and takes computing in a different direction. I don't have a lot of need for the AI stuff outside of some occasional LLM stuff. I'd like to hear more from the authors on this. I also understand that the old BBS way of communicating isn't perfect, but looking into web browsers seems to just be straight up insanity. Surely we can come up with something different now that takes the lessons learned over the past few decades combined with more modern hardware. I don't pretend to know what that would look like, but the idea of being able to fully understand the overall software stack (at least conceptually) is pretty tempting. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | ASalazarMX 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> Radiance compiler targetting RISC-V ISA. Involves writing an R' compiler in C and then porting it to R'. R is a language for statistics and data analysis, I can't understand why they chose it for low-level systems programming having modern alternatives like Go or Rust. Maybe it has to do with the AI integration. It seems interesting enough to follow, but I'm uncertain about its actual direction. Edit: Thanks to people in this thread for pointing out that it's not R, but R'. The language they're creating is called Radiance, so it may be that R' is a subset of it. > Radiance is a small statically-typed systems programming language designed for the Radiant platform, targeting the RISC-V RV64GC architecture. Radiance features a modern syntax and design inspired by Rust, Swift and Zig. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | godelski 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Looks like an experiment to me. Which is fine. Why not play around? A NN based computer is something people have been contemplating for awhile. Though it seems more like a solution looking for a problem to me ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯[0]
Actually this bugs me more. I really dislike how frequently people claim "first principles". First principles are those that cannot be reduced. It's often used not in this way and all that accomplishes is people tricking themselves (or worse, tries to convince others) that these are the simplest components. We use first principles in subjects like math and physics but honestly 99.9% of what we work with in those domains are not through first principles. Maybe if you start with axioms in set theory or if you're in physics trying to derive a ToE (what those first principles are) then you're not down there.It bugs me because deriving first principles is an extremely complicated task. Its also a very beneficial exercise, especially when trying to build things from the ground up. Constantly asking yourself how this can be broken down even more. First principles are not where you start. Having them should demonstrate a large amount of work having already been done and deep thought into what you're doing. When clicking on that section I see nothing that looks like first principles. I see really a manifesto and much of which is actually difficult to distinguish from current computing. It's a nice manifesto, but also seems too vague and naïve. Though the latter is generally a feature of manifestos, not exactly a fault [0] to me, AI being built in should look more like AI being used like physics informed networks. Which are more using the NN for optimization. You could definitely abstract out more and this would be cool and interesting to see. But from the sound of it, it seems more like they're just putting LLMs in | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | __alexs 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
People had similar fears about OLE in Windows 95. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | d-us-vb 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
There are lots of systems that have tried to do something like the first quote. They're usually referred to as "semantic OSes", since the OS itself manages the capturing of semantic links. I don't think anyone denies the current utility of AI. A big problem of the current OSes is that AI features are clumsily bolted on without proper context. If the entire system is designed from the ground up for AI and the model runs locally, perhaps many of the current issues will be diminished. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | sleepybrett 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I think it's fine if all the 'ai' is local. I haven't read all of the documentation around this project but I hope it's in the same vein as the cannon cat and the apple-apple//gs (and other early computer systems with quick and easy access to some kind of programmable environment). (as an aside I think apple tried to keep this going with applescript and automator but didn't quite pull it off) I think there is a weird trick though. General purpose computers a great and they can do anything and many people bog down their systems with everything as a result. I feel like past projects like Microsoft's Bob and the Canon Cat were also in this general thought pattern. Strip it back, give them the tools that they need and very little else. I try and follow that pattern also on my work macbook. I only install what I need to do my job. Anything I want to try out gets a deadline for removal. I keep my /Applications folder very light and I police my homebrew installs with a similar zeal. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | Y_Y 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Good luck running your super-necessary local models without nvidia drivers | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | CGMthrowaway 17 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Sounds like it's vibe-coding your entire software stack (data, apps, OS) in real time. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||