| ▲ | DANmode 2 days ago |
| Ten years ago it was a problem. Good, even some great, stuff out there, today. |
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| ▲ | loeg 2 days ago | parent [-] |
| It's still a problem today, 2025. I think the LiveWire S2 models come closest, but they still have anemic range. (And we're ignoring cost, which is also much higher.) |
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| ▲ | DANmode 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Problem implies “it’s not happening”. Cost is a challenge. These things go 175 miles, up to 450+ miles if you have money. | | |
| ▲ | loeg 2 days ago | parent [-] | | I mean, sales are largely "not happening." Livewire sells ~600 bikes a year. Buyers have the same objections I do. > These things go 175 miles, up to 450+ miles if you have money. Only the heaviest models, ridden extremely conservatively. | | |
| ▲ | DANmode a day ago | parent [-] | | > Buyers have the same objections I do. Buyers don’t know they exist, if they’ll struggle to register them, or how to work on them! The heaviest ones seem like the same weight as a 600cc or 1000cc crotch rocket - am I missing something big? | | |
| ▲ | loeg a day ago | parent [-] | | Buyers are aware they exist and registration isn't a problem. Ability to repair is another big problem / question mark. > The heaviest ones seem like the same weight as a 600cc or 1000cc crotch rocket - am I missing something big? Livewire One is 560 lb! Energica Ego was 570! 600s and liter bikes aren't anywhere close to that -- low 400s lb for 600s, and 430-440 lb for a liter bike. |
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