It's still a problem today, 2025. I think the LiveWire S2 models come closest, but they still have anemic range. (And we're ignoring cost, which is also much higher.)

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DANmode 2 days ago | parent [-]

Problem implies “it’s not happening”.

Cost is a challenge.

These things go 175 miles, up to 450+ miles if you have money.

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loeg 2 days ago | parent [-]

I mean, sales are largely "not happening." Livewire sells ~600 bikes a year. Buyers have the same objections I do.

> These things go 175 miles, up to 450+ miles if you have money.

Only the heaviest models, ridden extremely conservatively.

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DANmode a day ago | parent [-]

> Buyers have the same objections I do.

Buyers don’t know they exist, if they’ll struggle to register them, or how to work on them!

The heaviest ones seem like the same weight as a 600cc or 1000cc crotch rocket - am I missing something big?

	▲	loeg a day ago \| parent [-]
		Buyers are aware they exist and registration isn't a problem. Ability to repair is another big problem / question mark. > The heaviest ones seem like the same weight as a 600cc or 1000cc crotch rocket - am I missing something big? Livewire One is 560 lb! Energica Ego was 570! 600s and liter bikes aren't anywhere close to that -- low 400s lb for 600s, and 430-440 lb for a liter bike.