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dietrichepp 3 days ago

Conspicuously absent are some of the analog circuit applications. Here are three of my favorites:

1. Frequency mixer, used for heterodyning, important in radio, so I hear. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency_mixer

2. Log converter, where the output voltage is proportional to the logarithm of the input voltage. https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/374440/log-c...

3. Diode ring, which provides variable gain, used in analog compressors like the Neve 33609 (I have a clone of the 33609, and I’m very fond of it)

Think about this: if you have a nonlinear device like a diode, then the dynamic resistance changes depending on the operating point. If you modulate the operating point, you’re modulating the dynamic resistance.

nomel 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

4. Varactors! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varicap

Reverse biasing a diode at different levels changes the junction capacitance. Also used in radio, for things like variable filters.

edit: oh, it's topped pinned comment!

exDM69 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Two more from the world of analog music/guitar electronics:

1) Ring modulator: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_modulation

A device used to multiply two analog signals in time domain. Best known for the sound of the Daleks in the original 1960s Doctor Who series. Has some applications outside of music and sound effects. If you can find those old fashioned audio transformers, this effect does not require a power source.

2) Diode clipper: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipper_(electronics)

Two diodes in parallel with opposite polarities. Clips the incoming AC signal to a +/- diode threshold voltage. Put a high voltage gain amplifier stage in front of it and you get the classic electric guitar distortion tone you know and love. Allegedly works best with germanium-unobtainium diodes. In their absence, using two different kinds of diodes can also have pleasant tonal qualities.

actsasbuffoon 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

So many distortion pedals use an op amp to run a signal into antiparallel diodes to create distortion. I’ve spent a few weeks trying to emulate it, and it’s a lot of fun.

Different flavors of diode make significant changes to the way it sounds. Even things like LEDs can be used (they are Light Emitting Diodes, after all).

Andy Simper of Cytomic is some kind of mad genius at this stuff. He’s created a painstakingly accurate emulation of the Ibanez Tube Screamer that allows you to change the values of basically every component in the circuit diagram. It’s jaw dropping: https://cytomic.com/product/scream/

He’s also shared a ton of incredible information about how he emulates circuits. The math can get really intense. If anyone is looking for a fun project, I strongly suggest experimenting with circuit modeling. It’s a great workout for the brain.

Archit3ch 2 days ago | parent [-]

As someone also doing audio circuit modeling, Andy is so far ahead of everyone in this game. Have you seen his latest? https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9149872#p9149...

ErroneousBosh 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> 2) Diode clipper: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipper_(electronics)

I don't even know how many Boss DS-1 clones I've made, but the first one was probably when I was in high school about 35 years ago.

squarefoot 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> If you can find those old fashioned audio transformers, this effect does not require a power source.

Audio transformers are available both on Aliexpress and Ebay, although I would probably trust more a Triad TY-250P which is about €5 each at Mouser.

namibj 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Step recovery diode!

Abuse minority carrier lifetime to very suddenly turn from resistive to capacitive just after switching from forward current to reverse bias; use the fact that the current wants to keep flowing to force it to concentrate into another step recovery diode that's about to cut out, in turn making the cut off spike even sharper, and on.

Surprisingly capable for e.g. blasting a FET gate off while tanking the Miller effect gate current needs through sheer power of SRD-based-pulse-shaping. Because for e.g. GaN and SiC if you have to choose between ZVS and ZCS, you can take ZVS and just furnish a gate pulse that _makes_ the channel remain off as the current drops and the voltage soars. At least if you pull some tricks and make the current commutation loop sufficiently low inductance to keep your transistors from blowing out in self-inflicted overvoltage due to a current that needed to pass too high an inductance in too short a time. (Total drain charge is sadly fundamental to the channel's existence, and non-ZVS turn-on is unavoidably lossy. A majority carrier device is theoretically capable of just switching off though if you can arrange the structure for extremely low inductance.)

ErroneousBosh 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> 3. Diode ring, which provides variable gain, used in analog compressors like the Neve 33609 (I have a clone of the 33609, and I’m very fond of it)

I just had a quick look at the service manual, but isn't that more of a diode bridge than diode ring? A Ring Modulator has the diodes connected nose-to-tail in a ring, but the gain cell in the 33609 looks more like a rectifier :-)

You can see the same circuit in the VCF and (incorrectly drawn) in the VCA of the Korg MS50 synthesizer. In the former it acts as the "variable resistor" in a fairly straightforward Sallen-Key lowpass filter (there are two feedback capacitors, one to either side of the bridge, to attempt to prevent the input voltage also tuning the filter). On the VCA the diodes are drawn wrong but the pin numbers are correct.

adrian_b 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

For log converters you should not use diodes, because their parasitic currents mask the current component that has an exponential dependence from the voltage.

For log converters, bipolar transistors are used, because their collector current depends only on the ideal diode current of the base-emitter diode, not also on its parasitic currents, so the base-emitter voltage has a logarithmic dependence on the collector current, for a relatively wide range of currents.

bob1029 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Zener diodes can be used as the basis for a quantum random number generator.

https://opg.optica.org/optcon/fulltext.cfm?uri=optcon-1-7-15...

phkahler 2 days ago | parent [-]

These are also good noise sources and were use in several early video arcade games for producing explosion and spaceship thrust sounds.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise_generator

summa_tech 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You could also make a high speed signal sampler.

https://w140.com/tekwiki/wiki/Sampler

joconne 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Diodes are also used as a radiation detector in radiotherapy: https://oncologymedicalphysics.com/diode-detectors/

4gotunameagain 2 days ago | parent [-]

And particle accelerators ! They mostly detect gamma radiation, and they are used in conjunction with other detectors (ram chips, mosfets)

hshdhdhehd 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

From my hobbying decades ago there is also the boring old rectifier to convert AC to a wavy DC.

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kennywinker 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Those are covered in the article

f1shy 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

With some capacitors you can build a voltage multiplicator

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltage_multiplier

saltcured 2 days ago | parent [-]

Yeah, I remember one of these my brother cooked up to power a He-Ne laser tube way back when... It was lots of fun to apply to other off-label experiments too.

RossBencina 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

4. Voltage controlled filter, (diode ladder VCF), as used in the Roland TB303

ErroneousBosh 2 days ago | parent [-]

Diode ladder, but also in various Sallen-Key designs like the Steiner-Parker Synthacon which we all now know from the Arturia Minibrute (Yves Usson probably made more of these filters than Nyle Steiner ever did!) and as I've mentioned elsewhere the Korg MS50. I think the Yamaha GX1 filters used a diode bridge too, probably using discrete transistors similar to the Korg 700S filter.

normel6 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

PIN diode, a diode used as an AC on/off switch by passing current through it, very useful in RF circuits above 1GHz

analog31 2 days ago | parent [-]

I'm always amazed at the circuit hacks that look utterly disgusting until you realize that they're the most practical solution at high frequencies.

temporallobe 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Clipping diodes are common in distortion effects as well, especially guitar distortion pedals. Examples include silicon, germanium, LEDs, etc.

fuzzfactor 2 days ago | parent [-]

I was always partial to the 6AL5 dual diode, which can handle over 300 volts:

https://www.radiomuseum.org/tubes/tube_6al5.html

https://www.r-type.org/pdfs/6al5.pdf

stevefolta 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

In synthesizers, diodes are used in oscillators to shape triangle waves into sine waves.

timonoko 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Stereo decoder. You feed L+R and L-R to the corners of Full Bridge Rectifier and out comes Left and Right.

goodpoint 2 days ago | parent [-]

I heard his voice while reading this.

gblargg 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Temperature sensor.

liffiton 2 days ago | parent [-]

I did this once with a diode when I was a baby electrical engineer in college. But of course you need some kind of measurement circuit. So somehow(???) I figured out I could wire a diode into one axis of my analog Gravis joystick--hooked up to my soundcard--and get a fairly accurate and stable measurement of temperature by poking the monostable multivibrator (pretty sure that's what it was called) in the soundcard that would trigger the time it took to drain a set amount of charge through the joystick's x-axis/now-diode.

Novices who don't have a clue nor know any better come up with the weirdest solutions. I have no clue whatsoever now what inspired me to even try something like that.

HeyLaughingBoy 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

And you managed to reinvent the single-slope ADC :-)

https://www.cedarlakeinstruments.com/archives/841

https://www.monolithicpower.com/en/learning/mpscholar/analog...

ErroneousBosh 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> I have no clue whatsoever now what inspired me to even try something like that.

A combination of "what's the simplest thing that could possibly work?" and "well they didn't say you couldn't..."

beckler 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Kinda interesting to hear about. I have a 500 chassis I’m slowly working on filling. I’m between the RND 535 or 543, and had never heard of a diode bridge comp before looking at the 535.

What kind of 33609 clone do you have?

dietrichepp 3 days ago | parent [-]

I have the Heritage HA-609A. I considered going 500-series. Maybe some day in the future. For now, I have two preamps and the HA-609A in a 4U rack, and most of my other gear is in storage. Keeping things light.

cozzyd 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

And a square law detector!