| ▲ | teiferer 4 days ago |
| > always prepare a punch. People don't realize it but there's alcohol in this thing Why is it that alcohol seems to be a necessary ingredient to people having a good time? Or at least everybody assumes this to be the case? Why is nobody able to be themselves and relax and have fun without being intoxicated, mildly or more? Serious question, I don't get it. |
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| ▲ | dominostars 4 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| People are able to be themselves and relax when they feel safe. Safe from judgement, rejection, reprisal, etc. When you're with a group of people you don't know, you don't know how safe they are. Getting drunk helps people feel uninhibited from all of that. There are a million other ways to feel safer with new people, but drinking happens to be extremely easy and quick. |
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| ▲ | teiferer 4 days ago | parent [-] | | > People are able to be themselves and relax when they feel safe. Safe from judgement, rejection, reprisal, etc. When you're with a group of people you don't know, you don't know how safe they are. And how is any of that related to alcohol? My friend can open up to me when we are in a safe environment without the need for first ingesting a drug. It's not the alcohol that causes the safety. Maybe it's a ritual, that could explain things partially. But maybe a ritual worth abandoning. Just like we did with smoking, and everybody gained (well except the tobacco industry). I'm sure the boozemakers won't let go without a fight though. But so far they have plenty of help. | | |
| ▲ | GuB-42 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Kurzgesagt did an excellent video about that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOwmt39L2IQ It talks about how harmful alcohol is, but also how it benefits society. | |
| ▲ | Mashimo 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > And how is any of that related to alcohol? Alcohol relaxes and you often get judged less when you are silly while you are drunk. Think of it as lubrication, the gears spin fine without it, but it's easier with some grease. | |
| ▲ | darkwater 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | > My friend can open up to me when we are in a safe environment without the need for first ingesting a drug. It's not the alcohol that causes the safety. But that's not a party. I mean, there are people that open up when drunk, but they do it with strangers. But if you are opening up to a friend, a real friend, I would say the norm is to do it without any substance involved. Because the barriers are already not there. |
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| ▲ | darkwater 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Because people have psychological barriers (naturally or "imposed" via education) that alcohol or other psychotropic substances help tearing down. Not having those barriers is a great help in having a great party. But obviously not everyone is the same in that regard and also the very definition of "party" and "great party" can change. |
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| ▲ | teiferer 4 days ago | parent [-] | | Indeed. In my experience, once the alcohol level has crossed a certain threshold, you need to be taking part to think it's great. If you are a non-drinker, for whatever reason (pregnant, medication, morals, ...) what you get to observe beyond that threshold is a huge turnoff and the opposite of a great event. |
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| ▲ | Mashimo 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Well it's a fact that you do get more open and relaxed with alcohol. The barriers go down. And over the lifetime people almost all the time had alcohol when they where at parties. You start to associate alcohol with fun and parties. Of course this is generalized and depends on cultures and groups. That's what I like about them young Gen Z, they drink less alcohol. Sadly they also socialise less. I once heard a story that Inuits in Greenland did not have access to alcohol so everyone could drink. Instead only half drank, and the other half had water but where allowed to act as if they where drunk. I'm not sure this is real, but I can see it happend. |
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| ▲ | teiferer 4 days ago | parent [-] | | > You start to associate alcohol with fun and parties. That's probably it. It's a ritual. A costly one though, in terms of money as well as health. Direct cost (liver, brain cells, ...), as well as indirect (accidents, fights, ...). > That's what I like about them young Gen Z, they drink less alcohol. I wouldn't celebrate to soon. Every movement eventually spawns a countermovement. Next gen might be the most booze consuming ever. | | |
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| ▲ | baby 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Alcohol is a social lubricant. Next question. |
