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michaelmior 12 days ago

> No hub required - TOMMY runs as a Home Assistant add-on or on a Linux host (Docker) and uses supporting devices to create a sensing network.

I don't see how either the HA instance or the Linux host can't be viewed as a hub. No hub required feels untrue to me. I assume this question is intended to clarify that some additional device is not necessary, but I think this could be reworded.

mike2872 12 days ago | parent | next [-]

You're absolutely right. Thanks for the feedback! "No hub required" is misleading. What I meant was "no additional proprietary hub". Meaning, if you're already running Home Assistant or have a Linux machine, you don't need to own a separate device like Zigbee/Z-Wave hub. But yes, the HA instance or Linux host is effectively acting as the hub. I'll update that wording on the site.

michaelmior 12 days ago | parent | next [-]

I figured that's what you meant and I think it's totally reasonable! I just think the wording could be updated a little. I have a couple ESP32s lying around not doing anything, so I'm looking forward to trying out TOMMY with HA :)

mike2872 12 days ago | parent [-]

I agree. I'm going to find something more suitable :-) Sounds good. Looking forward to hearing about your results!

mrheosuper 11 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>You're absolutely right. Thanks for the feedback!

I have PTSD whenever I see that phrase. Please don't be a LLM reply.

Moosdijk 12 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm hoping you'll open the API some time in the future. This would be great for diy installations with a esp32 hub.

kentt 12 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Fair criticism. I think the generous interpretation of "no hub" means you don't have to buy a specialized hub eg a Smartthings hub.

teekert 12 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

OTOH, when you buy any Bosch, IKEA, Hue, Aqara device, it says on the box: Hub required (and they do mean get our hub and place next to all other hubs. Even though Home Assistant will usually work fine-ok).

So I see where he’s coming from, and I interpreted it as intended.

HnUser12 12 days ago | parent [-]

Don’t the matter compatible ones work with any hub?

victorbjorklund 12 days ago | parent | prev [-]

You are of course correct but in the HA community "no hub required" often should be read as "no addiditonal hub required because HA can communicate directly with it"

michaelmior 6 days ago | parent [-]

Agreed although I think it would still help to be more explicit.