The saddest part of this is the lack of availability: at this point there's 2 standard laptops using this chip, the Z13 being the only high perf one. There's the Framework lines as well, but they aren't available in many countries, and it's a very specific public.

And that's after half a year after the first machines to come to the market.

I love the Z13, but it's clearly a niche machine, so I'm assuming they are having a really hard time manufacturing the chips ? All the capacity is getting eaten by Apple ?

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ThreatSystems 20 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Cognisant US pricing for the HP Z Book Ultra was astronomical, within the EU it's on par with standard laptops and to good effect. The only regret I have is ordering on release day and not wanting to wait for the 128gb version; but battery life and power has remain unmatched to any of the pretty large workloads I have thrown at it!

Outside of laptops, Beelink and co. are making NUCs with them which are relatively affordable!

I do agree, the scarcity has limited their opportunity to assess the growth opportunity.

	▲	green7ea 14 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I also have one with 64gb — best laptop I've ever used :-). I have the same regret of not waiting for the 128gb version to be available before buying.

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voidmain0001 20 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

HP ZBook Ultra G1a is a great option and can be bought with up to 128GB RAM.

	▲	makeitdouble 9 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Yes. It looks to be the more standard option form factor wise, which is a blessing and a curse. For instance they went for the standard lower resolution display (1920x1440 for 14" vs 2560x1600 for 13" on the Z13). The thermals also looked better on the Z13, which comes partly with the form factor, partly with Asus optimizing for that for so many years. Of cours the Z13 keyboard is meh, I expect most owners to have it detached 90% of the time and handle the machine more like a standalone screen/touch/pen input.

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wmf 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Beelink, GMKtec, Minisforum, Corsair...

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dontlaugh 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You can’t even buy the Z13 with more than 32 GB in most of Europe and certainly not with the 2-3 years of warranty most employers require for hardware they purchase.

I’m annoyed that I’ll probably have to pick a Framework 13 with less CPU and much less GPU merely because of availability.