| ▲ | verdverm 2 days ago |
| Look to BYD instead of Tesla if you want to find rapid advancement. Tesla has not been well managed for a few years, BYD recently passed them to become the biggest EV seller I bought Hyundai, which charges 2x faster than the Tesla Another thing to consider is the Tesla likely makes up the majority of the used EV inventory, and Tesla has become a toxic brand |
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| ▲ | numpad0 a day ago | parent | next [-] |
| I've seen more lamborghinis than privately owned BYDs at this point. Maybe it's just where I'm from, but consumers definitely aren't switching to BYD, around myself. |
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| ▲ | dboreham a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Recently in Singapore and Hong Kong. Roughly as many BYD as Teslas there. | |
| ▲ | theshackleford a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Maybe it's just where I'm from I mean it's pretty obviously this. You don't become the worlds largest EV seller if nobody is buying. |
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| ▲ | Sohcahtoa82 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > I bought Hyundai, which charges 2x faster than the Tesla Your Hyundai charges at 500 kW? |
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| ▲ | verdverm a day ago | parent | next [-] | | There's more to charging than peak kW, notably sustained throughput The amount of range you can put into the EV, per unit of time, is a better metric. https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/electric-car-charging.html Hyundai has been on the 800V arch for a while with their E-GMP platform, Tesla's first entry is the 25th spot. | | |
| ▲ | Sohcahtoa82 a day ago | parent [-] | | Huh...that is interesting. TIL. I wonder why the Tesla is not able to maintain the high charging rate? Both peak at about the same kW. | | |
| ▲ | dboreham a day ago | parent [-] | | I don't think that's true. Afaik Tesla (except Cybertruck) have 400V charging limited to 250kW while the other vehicles have 800V charging allowing 350kW or so. |
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| ▲ | bmicraft a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Maybe the car is more efficient and it's twice the rate in "driveable distance-charged" per unit of time? |
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| ▲ | Spivak a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Sweet Jesus 1000 miles of range per hour is incredible. It might not technically solve the road trip problem but that's fast enough to make a not even five minute pit stop to get you home. Any range anxiety for intra-city travel is just gone. |
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| ▲ | zer00eyz a day ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > BYD recently passed them to become the biggest EV seller Well when your government subsides every sale, and your the cheapest product on the market this is a natural outcome. Mass strikes by workers (in china). Fires (a lot of them). Recalls (several this year). And now massive tariffs for them in a lot of markets don't paint a picture that they have a sustainable business. We all know that subsidized growth is a great way to build a business (see ridesharing, delivery, in the US) but it doesn't make consumers happy in the end when prices go up and service quality goes down. |
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| ▲ | Spivak a day ago | parent [-] | | Having ridden in a lot of BYDs when traveling overseas I think you paint too bleak a picture. They're everywhere and reliable enough to seemingly be the preferred cars for uber drivers. Some markets might tax them out of existence but I expect others will gladly take perfectly serviceable cars on the cheap. Tesla is still kicking and they had all the same problems at one time or another. I mean until this year we also massively subsidized every EV sale so pot calling the kettle black. | | |
| ▲ | zer00eyz a day ago | parent [-] | | > I mean until this year we also massively subsidized every EV sale so pot calling the kettle black. There is a big difference between domestic subsidies and export subsidies. One is a policy to promote adoption the other is akin to economic warfare. | | |
| ▲ | theshackleford a day ago | parent [-] | | > There is a big difference between domestic subsidies and export subsidies. Nice goalpost shifting. | | |
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