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diego_moita 12 hours ago

Comparing this logo to the original reminds me the whole discussion about skeuomorphism (that's when GUI icons imitate closely things from the real world).

Icons that strongly resemble things from real life are, quite often, problematic at representation, especially in smaller sizes. They take more time to understand and decode, they're prone to confusion.

But anti-skeuomorphic icons also have a problem of their own: they become so abstract that quite often we don't know what they represent. They become cold and soulless, like corporation logos. An example: I look at this new icon and what I see is Darth Vader with an open big mouth.

It is like comparing IKEA furniture and Bauhaus or Scandinavian design against Art-Noveau or Antonio Gaudí's architecture. The first are (as Nietzsche would say) apolinean, elegant, subdued and functional. The second are dionisiac, fun, a feast for the senses.

moron4hire 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Skeumorphism isn't just resembling things from the real world. It's using simulated physical object styling and detail in a user interface to signify affordances in the design.

A penguin icon is not a skeumorphism because it being a penguin doesn't tell us anything about how to use the icon.

If the icon were a rendering of a physical push-button, then it would be skeumorphic, because the button image would suggest to us that we can click it.

Unless you're trying to make the argument that penguins deserve boops on their beaks.

diego_moita 11 hours ago | parent [-]

I am not sure the term is so strict and applies only to "controls" in GUIs.

Case in point: the Wikipedia page on skeuomorphism refers to objects outside of the domain of GUI language. It also covers physical objects referencing other physical objects (e.g.: skeuomorphic pottery, wood architecture imitating stone, plastic objects imitating metal, etc.)

moron4hire 9 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, but we're talking about digital interfaces right now.

Even when considering faux finishes on real world materials, that standard doesn't apply here. Unlike, say, the wooden shingles cut to look like stone on Colonial era architecture (e.g. George Washington's home at Mt. Vernon) that are trying to convince us they are something they aren't, the penguin icon is not trying to, nor would it ever, convince us it's a real penguin.

Going back to my first sentence, yes, skeuomorphism is a concept older than computer interfaces. When the term is applied to computer interfaces, it has to be adapted. Since current display tech could never create something even close to a convincing simulacrum of, say, a notebook, the term then gets adapted to mean that the use of skeuomorphism attempts to communicate functionally. Much like how "brutalist" Web design has nothing to do with the Brutalist architecture movement.

numpad0 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think the word you're looking for is more like avant-garde movement, cubism, surrealism, communist constructivism, post-modern deconstructivism, postmodernism, or something towards that rough general direction towards the MoMA and the Guggenheim museum, rather than skeuomorphism/anti-skeuomorphism dichotomy.

KolmogorovComp 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I cannot unsee Dark Vader now :0

card_zero 9 hours ago | parent [-]

Basking shark vader.