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The DHS has been harvesting DNA from Americans for years(wired.com)
111 points by righthand 7 hours ago | 24 comments
yegle 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

California is ahead of the curve:

DNA of every baby born in California is stored. Who has access to it? - CBS News https://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-biobank-dna-babies-w...

wormius 8 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I'm old enough to remember this: https://www.nydailynews.com/1998/12/17/test-tot-dna-sez-rudy...

(1998, NYC, "America's Mayor" before he became such)

"Mayor Giuliani said yesterday that he favors DNA testing for all children at birth as a tool to fight crime, track deadbeat dads and resolve paternity suits. Though not formally proposing such a plan, the mayor told reporters, “I would have no problem with that or fingerprinting all children. “I think DNA should be available the way fingerprints are available,” he added. The mayor’s comments added fuel to the heated debate over Police Commissioner Howard Safir’s plan to collect DNA from prison inmates, parolees and crime suspects."

sellmesoap 22 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I remember a friend of a friend describing being arrested for putting a peace protest flyer on a public bulletin board in Australia (protesting the second gulf war) and having a DNA sample taken at that time.

SilverElfin 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That is terrible and dystopian. Even if they claim to honor deletion how would you know? It may be resold already or in backups or wherever.

righthand an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Frightening and has convinced me why people are moving away.

01HNNWZ0MV43FF 13 minutes ago | parent [-]

Tough call between the big state with NIMBYs and surveillance, or the big state where they want me to use the men's bathroom and the cops will give you hell for fleeing the state to get an abortion

y-c-o-m-b 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Seems to be one of those issues like NSA mass surveillance, which transcends party lines and remains supported by most politicians. Kudos to my senator Ron Wyden though, he's been a true champion of opposing both of those things.

caprock 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The X-Files was right all along

reaperducer 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I liked the world better when the tinfoil hat people were wrong.

sschueller 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The irony is that they didn't force people to give their DNA (except if you were arrested) but instead people willingly gave it and even paid for it.

If you think Bill Gates is going to implant a chip in your brain via a COVID vaccine you are mistaken. Once such tech exists (if ever) people will be lining up in queues and pay a lot of money to get it implanted.

reaperducer 3 hours ago | parent [-]

The irony is that they didn't force people to give their DNA (except if you were arrested) but instead people willingly gave it and even paid for it.

You and I must have read different articles. The one being discussed here is about American citizens, who are not under arrest, being compelled to give cheek swabs as a condition of re-entering their own country.

slackfan 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

So back before we came out of the trees?

add-sub-mul-div 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This isn't a conspiracy, this just a law enforcement practice that people might not like and sounds scary enough to make for an inflammatory headline.

OptionOfT 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

https://archive.ph/ov4RV

ChrisArchitect 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Earlier: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45353800

pfdietz 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Have they ever encouraged people to submit DNA samples in order to identify criminal relatives? I could see this going over well with the law-and-order part of the population.

toomuchtodo 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

HN Search: GEDmatch - https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

IAmBroom 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

A murderer was caught because he was semi-closely (2nd-cousin) related to my cousin. Her DNA was a loose match to evidence. They found out she is The Geneologist for our family, and asked her to help... Boom, found him.

Workaccount2 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You just follow them around until they throw their lunch in the park waste bin, then collect their DNA off the garbage. No need to compel anyone.

pfdietz 3 hours ago | parent [-]

That's the end game, but first you have to figure who to follow around. To do that, you triangulate with public DNA data of somewhat distant relatives. Forensic genealogy.

timcobb 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This is a great call, these folks aren't devious or clever enough to understand that they can just ask...

pfdietz 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Even more devious would be "submit DNA samples and we'll give you immunity from paternity lawsuits", since concerns over that might inhibit some.

potato3732842 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Nobody who needs protection from a paternity lawsuit would fall for it.

IAmBroom 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Oh, my sweet summer child. Have you met any teenage boys? Or most philandering men?