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Quadratic memory reductions for Zero-knowledge Proofs(github.com)
73 points by logannyeMD 11 hours ago | 21 comments
gsf_emergency_2 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This entity is sentient enough not to publish on arxiv medrxiv or biorxiv, where they will surely be red-flagged for self citations and single-authorship

Their most believable and unsensational works are in generative histopathology

http://dx.doi.org/10.1200/jco.2023.41.16_suppl.e23500

https://doi.org/10.1200/jco.2023.41.16_suppl.e13592

Meeting abstracts (you can think of them as posters or talks given by interns)

>The trained model’s validation accuracy of 73.7% improves upon past reported methods.

Mediocre performance, but at least those papers have coauthors

aleph_minus_one 4 hours ago | parent [-]

> they will surely be red-flagged for self citations and single-authorship

Where is the problem with single-authorship?

gsf_emergency_2 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't see a problem personally but single, or more strictly speaking, for medical journals, --even medrxiv-- unaffiliated authorship is a (internal) filter

dathinab 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I always feel that if normal E2EE is very hard to do correctly the moment you add use cases which require zero knowledge proofs it's a x5-x10 complexity explosion on top of it. And that is in context where most companies will severely struggle to do E2EE right.

worldsayshi 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I've been thinking about ZKP's a lot recently. Using them we could perhaps build interesting and useful decentralised social media protocols. You could create a union at your workplace where you make agreements with everyone but you only communicate directly with your closest colleagues. You could create anonymous groups of doctors in a certain region that listen to reggae three times a week that think it would be worth renovating the cafeteria.

It would be a better foundation for the social contract than tick tock videos. But you'd need to make ZKP understandable and interactive for the average user.

lanternfish 7 hours ago | parent [-]

The problem is the same problem with crypto dao projects - cryptographic certainties only apply to mathematical structures; you can't validate that someone actually holds a quality until you can embed that digitally. That turns out to be very hard to do for most things.

eru 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, what Zero Knowledge proofs give you however is composability.

Eg suppose you have one system that lets you verify 'this person has X dollars in their bank account' and another system that lets you verify 'this person has a passport of Honduras' and another system that lets you verify 'this person has a passport of Germany', then whether the authors of these three systems ever intended to or not, you can prove a statement like 'this person has a prime number amount of dollars and has a passport from either Honduras or Germany'.

I see the big application not in building a union. For that you'd want something like Off-The-Record messaging probably? See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Off-the-record_messaging

Where I see the big application is in compliance, especially implementing know-your-customer rules, while preserving privacy. So with a system outlined as above, a bank can store a proof that the customer comes from one of the approved countries (ie not North Korea or Russia etc) without having to store an actual copy of the customer's passport or ever even learning where the customer is from.

As you mentioned, for this to work you need to have an 'anchor' to the real world. What ZKP gives you is a way to weave a net between these anchors.

alfiedotwtf 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Wow, that’s a neat idea - composable but verifiable notaries!

eru 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Well, they have to be verifiable offline (or sort-of offline) as a prerequisite. ZKP gives you the composition.

DustinBrett 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yep, those are indeed words in that README. That much I am pretty sure of.

DeepYogurt 8 hours ago | parent [-]

I read it to essentially mean that the cost of scaling a system just dropped a lot

iberator 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Is this real or AI?

tt349292 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think it's not real.

https://www.andrew.cmu.edu/cgi-bin/search?type=3&name=L

"lnye@andrew.cmu.edu" doesn't seem to be a real user.

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=loga...

There seems to be a lot of slope with no citations.

I think this submission should be flagged.

yorwba 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

https://www.cmu.edu/swartz-center-for-entrepreneurship/educa... lists a certain "Logan Nye, MD". It doesn't give his email address, but I checked a few of the other people and their email addresses don't turn up with the search you linked either.

So I think the GitHub user logannye is most likely a real master's student at CMU, but that doesn't mean he isn't also mass-producing papers of questionable validity with AI.

cbracketdash 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It seems like he took a leave of absence from CMU to start his company (based on Linkedin)

random3 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

you post this from an account created 3 weeks ago with karma 3 based on an email search?

joe_the_user 7 hours ago | parent [-]

The argument doesn't depend on the users karma

Plus the lack of scholar cites for any of the users papers is more damning than the email search - but they work together.

random3 6 hours ago | parent [-]

See my other post. The author has a TedX talk and papers with citations and co-authors, etc. While that wouldn't exclude a cloned profile, it certainly doesn't make him not real.

random3 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The person seems real, unless he faked his TedX talk 2 years ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et5HC8SR0BA or 2700 followers on LI https://www.linkedin.com/in/logan-nye/ along with the company, a cofounder etc.

The volume and breadth of publications is unreal.

e.g. Quantum Extensions to the Einstein Field Equations - 10 citations https://www.scirp.org/pdf/jhepgc2024104_362181145.pdf

discoinverno 6 hours ago | parent [-]

The physics paper has been published on a predatory 'open-access' journal, where basically you can pay to publish whatever (ref: https://blog.cabells.com/2021/07/07/no-signs-of-slowing/, look for scirp).

I gave a diagonal reading, it uses the right jargon somehow. They add some new components to the Einstein-Hilbert action they say originate from quantum complexity contributions, to be honest seems completely random, but i'm not an expert. Especially the conclusions look like they have been written with AI.

The 10 citations are almost all self-citing: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cites=2388097775195172652...

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