| ▲ | AnotherGoodName 3 days ago |
| Can’t read it since I don’t have a login there but i’m guessing they buy sims from all over the country and sms on matching prefixes since people will assume a local number is less likely to be spam. This explains using such a bank. You want to cover as many prefixes as possible and you can’t match area codes with traditional sms services. |
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| ▲ | jghn 3 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| You can also see his takes on bsky [1] or h blog he posted there [2] [1] https://bsky.app/profile/erratarob.bsky.social
[2] https://cybersect.substack.com/p/that-secret-service-sim-far... |
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| ▲ | AnotherGoodName 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | The second link there is much more meaningful. I actually did see the tweet in full it turns out. It's just that there's not much content so i figured "oh it's one of those twitter thread chains i can't read". | | |
| ▲ | jghn 3 days ago | parent [-] | | FWIW I have found him to be a good follow over the years. Unfortunately he mostly only posts on Twitter & not Bsky so I only see his stuff when he crosses over to bsky. |
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| ▲ | therein 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Good post, also they use Quectel because it allows changing IMEI with a single AT command. |
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| ▲ | perching_aix 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| These days the way to go is social media proxies. A popular one is xcancel. Just replace the x in the domain with xcancel and you'll land on a proxy site (somebody's Nitter instance to be specific): https://xcancel.com/ErrataRob/status/1970586083374112784 Still not gonna help if you have cookies disabled because of the rate limiting, but hey. |
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| ▲ | dmd 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I love how spammers do that- it works out great for me. I no longer live in my phones area code. I block the entire area code, which catches a huge amount of spam calls. |
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| ▲ | IG_Semmelweiss 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | this is a required hack, for any founder SO much value in being able to root out garbage sales calls | | |
| ▲ | esseph 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | You don't even need to be a founder, just a person in a position that people may believe is responsible for buying products and signing checks at a company. | | |
| ▲ | brookst 3 days ago | parent [-] | | With marginal cost of spam being $0, I am pretty sure homeless people and Bill Gates get exactly the same amount of spam. I’d be surprised if there was any target selection. | | |
| ▲ | esseph 3 days ago | parent [-] | | LinkedIn scraping is rampant. | | |
| ▲ | dmd 3 days ago | parent [-] | | It really is. I don't have my phone number on there, obviously, but when I went from being a random code monkey to having a 'Director' title at a very large institution, my sales spam went from 0 to probably 50 pieces a day. |
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| ▲ | trod1234 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Also need to do something about the inherent insecurity of most phones. GrapheneOS being a pretty decent solution nowadays to control those errant radio signals won't help against profiling for your next oil change/maintenance with those TPMS sensors beaconing everywhere you go. |
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| ▲ | slumberlust 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Same. The only downside is local contractors will also screen you, but most call me back when I leave a message insisting I'm local and give my address. |
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| ▲ | LargoLasskhyfv 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| If for some reason your browsing environment isn't/can't be configured to circumvent login shenanigans, at least for now, xitter can be read by inserting cancel right behind the X-part of the URL. Like so: https://xcancel.com/ErrataRob/status/1970586083374112784 With the additional advantage of giving you a view more like threadreader.app, or something. Without having to install anything. |
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| ▲ | ljf 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Things I learnt today: that mobile phone numbers in the USA are 'local' Here in the UK, all landline residential numbers start with an area code that starts 02 for London and 01 for the rest of the coountry (eg 020 for London and 0114 for Sheffield). Mobile numbers here all start 07 here, and the first 5 digits are carrier specific - but so many people port their numbers that it becomes meaningless pretty quickly. But years ago you could spot a number an know what provider the caller was on. --- Are residential and mobile numbers similar in the States? |
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| ▲ | sksksk 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | > all landline residential numbers start with an area code that starts 02 for London and 01 for the rest of the coountry 02 dialling codes are used in more than just London; Northern Ireland and Coventry phone numers start with 02 for example. | | |
| ▲ | hdgvhicv 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Go back far enough at London was 01 and the rest 02-09. London, Birmingham, Manchester and a few others were 7 digits (041 xxx xxxx for Glasgow) Then London changed to 081/071, then all changed to 01xxx (eg 0564 to 01564, 081 to 0181), then finally London, Southampton, Belfast and a few others mixed to 02x and 8 digits. 03 became national geographic numbers and things like 0345 and 0500 were phased out, 0800 remained free but not always with mobiles, 0845 was “local” but was basically premium, 0870 was even more, 0898 was super premium etc But as phones took off in the 00s everyone just had 07 with 9 digits. Not sure when that will fill up, but it feels like a billion numbers is enough for now. | |
| ▲ | ljf 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | I stand corrected, I didn't know that - but it is a while since I've paid attention to phone numbers like I used to. |
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| ▲ | dboreham 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Yes. There's no obvious way to differentiate between a mobile and a non-mobile number in the USA. Numbers are "somewhat local" in that the first three digits usually correspond to a strict geographical area. However that's not a guarantee since if someone moves to another area/state these days the mobile providers will let them keep their number. | |
| ▲ | petesergeant 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Also traditionally American cellphone users pay to receive calls, which will blow the mind of a Britisher. | | |
| ▲ | rkomorn 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | And text messages. It was very shocking to me how many minutes cell phone plans had in the US when I moved there (it was ... a while ago) compared to France. But also: in the US, calling someone on their cell cost the same as calling someone on a land line. In France, calling someone on their cell from a land line was something like 4x more per minute. Really, the structure of phone costs (both land and cell) in the US was quite different. | | |
| ▲ | hdgvhicv 3 days ago | parent [-] | | In the 90s local calls and thus Internet was free in America, where in the U.K. it cost upto £5 an hour (in today’s money) to be online. | | |
| ▲ | rkomorn 3 days ago | parent [-] | | Yep. France was similar to the UK. I spent years online between 10pm and 6am to use our dialup at the off-hours cost (which wasn't free, but significantly cheaper). Not the good old days of spending money to browse the internet at 28.8kbps. |
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| ▲ | palmotea 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Also traditionally American cellphone users pay to receive calls, which will blow the mind of a Britisher. IIRC, we had to pay for any kind of use on a cell phone use (both to make and receive calls), which is probably stemmed from them being considered premium devices when they were introduced, with a lot of expensive fixed infrastructure you'd use no matter the direction of the call. |
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| ▲ | silvestrov 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Denmark went 2 steps further: we no longer have area codes and all phone numbers can be mobile or landline. In old days the numbers were distinct but these days the overview just says "mostly mobile" or "mostly landline": https://digst.dk/media/x3tmvqsl/nummerplan_2020_farver.pdf | |
| ▲ | jmyeet 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Cell phones evolved differently. The UK (and Australia) set up a separate prefix for mobile calls. They were more expensive to call. You also knew if you could text someone because it was a mobile number. The US had analog cell phones for longer and they were introduced to be in the same area code so counted as a "local" call (vs "long distance") for anyone calling that number. The receiver also paid to receive that call, originally. I honestly don't know how landlines are charged now. It's been probably 20 years since I've had one. Some cheaper cell phone plans might have limited minutes but it's way more common to have unlimited talk and text to any US domestic number (landline or cell). Oh we had 1800 that were "toll free" meaning they didn't incur long distance charges, originally but this doesn't really apply now. Also, they ran out of 1800 numbers so pretty much anything 18xx is a toll free number. Note the 1 in front too. That's also a US thing. It technically indicates you're making a "long distance" call. More specifically, you're specifying an area code.e Modern smartphones don't generally require you to type in the 1. Old phones did. So if you were on a 718 number and call someone else on a 718 number, you could just use the 7 digits of their number. This isn't something people really do anymore. But if you had to call a 646 number you'd put in 1-646-123-4567 back in the day. By the way, the cell phone numbers being in a given area code explains this joke [1]. Oh the UK/Australia system had its issues too, like it mattered if you were calling from Vodafone to another Vodafone user or if it was an Orange or BT cutstomer because you were charged differently and it could count against different free minutes pools. And you really had no way of knowing. I don't believe the US had that kind of issue or, they did, it was so long ago that nobody remembers. [1]: https://xkcd.com/1129/ | | |
| ▲ | vinay427 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | > I don't believe the US had that kind of issue or, they did, it was so long ago that nobody remembers. There is still a similar issue of not knowing whether an area code is for another country in the North American Numbering Plan. It’s fairly common for me to see an unfamiliar number and be unsure whether it’s from the US or Canada, for instance, without additional context. | |
| ▲ | ljf 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Thank you for this - these are the kind of facts that really scratch a mental itch for me. |
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| ▲ | justahuman74 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > since people will assume a local number is less likely to be spam. Local number has become an spam signifier for me |
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| ▲ | VoidWhisperer 3 days ago | parent [-] | | The funny thing for me is that I still have the phone number I had when I was growing up, which is for a state halfway across the US. Most of my spam calls are in the area code of my phone number, making them pretty easy to recognize since I dont really know anyone from that area code anymore |
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| ▲ | 1vuio0pswjnm7 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| "Can't read it since I don't have a login there..." https://nitter.poast.org/ErrataRob/ |
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| ▲ | motoboi 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| You don't need a login to read a single tweet. |
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| ▲ | edoceo 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Twitter is inconsistent for me. From the mobile (FF, not authenticated) it's blocked but from desktop (FF, not authenticated) is visible. | | |
| ▲ | therein 3 days ago | parent [-] | | With Google referrer, it loads even more often, even on mobile I believe. Same for LinkedIn. It will not authwall you if you're coming from Google. |
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| ▲ | AnotherGoodName 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Thanks! I was assuming it was a chain with more details than i saw there. |
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