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| ▲ | LeafItAlone 11 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | And do you think the impetuous behind this action happening now is any different? In both cases YouTube is just doing what the government wants. | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > wasn't Google/Youtube banning so much as government ordering private companies to do so No, it was not. It’s particularly silly to suggest this when we have live example of such orders right now. The companies were nudged. (And they were wrong to respond to public pressure.) The President, after all, has a “bully pulpit.” But there were no orders, no credibly threats and plenty of companies didn’t deplatform these folks. | | |
| ▲ | EasyMark 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | That's what I told my MAGA friends. Biden recommended stuff, Trump threatens stuff. So far only one of them has followed through with action. Trump has threatened business deals and prosecution, and is currently sending government after his opponents with the DoJ. Yet those same people are as quiet as mice now on "government bullying" | |
| ▲ | spullara 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | They literally had access to JIRA at Twitter so they could file tickets against accounts. | | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 11 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > literally had access to JIRA at Twitter so they could file tickets against accounts I’m not disputing that they coördinated. I’m challenging that they were coerced. We wouldn’t describe Fox News altering a script on account of a friendly call from Miller and friends the “government ordering private companies” around. (Or, say, Florida opening their criminal justice records to ICE the federal government ordering states around.) Twitter’s leadership and the Biden administration saw eye to eye. This is a story about a media monoculture and private censorship, not government censorship. | |
| ▲ | unethical_ban 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Do you think no nefarious nation state actors are on social media spinning disinformation? | | |
| ▲ | EasyMark 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | It's extremely obvious on twitter. blue check accounts that post every few minutes 24/7 with profiles that say stuff like "true believer, wife, lover, seeker-of-truth. Don't DM me, I don't answer" . They are on there in the hundreds of thousands. |
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| ▲ | starik36 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | That was certainly the case with Twitter. It came out during the congressional hearings. FBI had a direct line to the decision makers. | | |
| ▲ | brokencode 11 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | A direct line to threaten decision makers? Or to point out possible misinformation spreaders? | | |
| ▲ | starik36 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | Threaten. Because of the implication. | | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > Because of the implication What was the implication? Twitter had no business in front of the federal government. They were wilfully complying. That doesn't make it okay. But it's a total retconning of actual history to suggest this was government censorship in any form. | |
| ▲ | dotnet00 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Musk owned Twitter for years of the Biden admin, at least one year of that was him openly simping for Trump. So... what sort of threat was this, that suddenly disappeared when Musk bought it? How credible was the threat if Musk was able to release the Twitter Files without repercussions from the Biden admin? | |
| ▲ | brokencode 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Do you think Elon would ever shut up about it if he was getting threatened by Biden and the FBI? |
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| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > was certainly the case with Twitter It was not. No threats were made, and Twitter didn’t blindly follow the FBI’s guidance. The simple truth is the leftist elements that wanted to control the debate were there in the White House and in Twitter’s San Francisco offices. Nobody had to be coerced, they were coördinating. |
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