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kkaske 8 hours ago

I don't follow this kind of thing so forgive my ignorance. Why was "platforming" DHH bad? Honest question.

alphager 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

He posted a personal blog post a few days ago decrying that London is not white enough. He has a history of very right-leaning positions.

thevillagechief 6 hours ago | parent [-]

These kind of statements frustrate me. They are kind of manufactured consent statements. I likely don't agree with DHH positions as shared here, but when did we decide platforming very left-leaning positions is good, and platforming very right-leaning ones is bad? I wouldn't even mind if the position was that platforming either is good/bad. The framing here begs the question.

amanaplanacanal 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Well yes, thinking people should be treated equally regardless of their sexuality or color of their skin is good, and the opposite is bad. Is that the kind of "very left leaning position" you had in mind? Or something else?

poszlem 5 hours ago | parent [-]

What you described is, of course, a perfectly honest account of the issue, and definitely not a strawman set up just to be knocked down.

amanaplanacanal 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Do you have some idea what they meant by extreme left leaning issues? I'd like to hear your take.

hombre_fatal 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Sure: importing migrants with no end in sight while shutting down any convo over what the limit should be; there is no limit and you're racist if you disagree.

And it's not a principled position on open borders nor open migration but instead part of a double standard. These same people probably cheer on the protests in Mexico City against white gringos in Condesa.

That's how I'd summarize the far left position. The far right one is probably that migrants are bad. And I suppose the middle position is that there's a problem when immigration rate outpaces cultural assimilation.

amanaplanacanal 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Is unlimited immigration really popular among the far left? Sounds more like a libertarian position to me.

After some quick googling I can't find any groups that support that.

I did find a poll that shows 64% of Americans support creating some path for undocumented immigrants to get legal status. I'm not sure you could call 64% a far left position though.

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RhythmFox 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You just happen to hold this 'middle position' I imagine?

pebble 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The left-leaning ones usually don't call for the eradication of certain peoples.

tremon 2 hours ago | parent [-]

To be fair, neither do the right-leaning ones; the ones that do have fallen completely on their side. It's just that societal discourse has been purposefully skewed so that the mean lean is 60 degrees to the right, making it very easy for weak individuals to fall over.

makeitdouble an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> hen did we decide platforming very left-leaning positions is good, and platforming very right-leaning ones is bad?

The same way DHH can have opinions, one-man-companies forking the sponsorship momey can have some too. "We" didn't decide anything, a sponsor company decided to stop sponsoring (with no public commentary), that's all that happened.

More to the point, "platforming" is an active operation, I think anyone can decide who they want to promote and why. It's fundamentally different from censoring.

madeofpalk 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I disagree with this framing as well. There's nothing wrong with "right-leaning" statements or opinions. DHH can talk all he wants about a desire for smaller governments, opinions on gun control, or conservative fiscal policy.

However, people that espouse intolerance of others based on the colour of their skin is just objectively bad. Sometimes there is a right and a wrong side to things. The problem is that some on the political-right seem to have aligned themselves with policy or viewpoints that stand for hatred.

basisword 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think the real issue is framing blatant racism as a 'very right-leaning' opinion. It does a disservice to people who have normal conservative opinions on economic or social issues. We've moved past race as a social issue long ago. It's not a debate that should be had anymore. Racists aren't conservative or right wing - they're just bigots.

And to be clear, you can discuss immigration policy without being racist. In the blog post in question DHH gives his support to a convicted criminal, who is also a former member of an explicitly fascist political party and founder of an islamophobic hate group. That's not 'right-leaning'. It's support for a racist criminal. I'm unsure whether DHH is actually a bigot or just completely engulfed in the rhetoric common on Twitter these days. Either way he's a fucking moron pontificating on something which he has no actual experience of. Maybe when the US invades Greenland and starts deporting the Danes from the US he'll discover empathy.

type0 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> Maybe when the US invades Greenland and starts deporting the Danes from the US he'll discover empathy.

is he actually US citizen or dual or just Danish?

chuckadams 31 minutes ago | parent [-]

> is he actually US citizen or dual or just Danish?

The question is, does that even matter to the current regime?

octernion 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

you think we should platform racism?

bhouston 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I read the DHH post in question: https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64. It is pretty standard anti-immigrant. It feels like it is acknowledging the fact that the populations of Western countries are in a demographic crisis, they are sub-replacement in terms of fertility but instead of fixing that he just wants to ban immigrants. It feels like fixing the fertility issue would solve the root issue.

fwip 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You don't need to carry water for racists and invent more palatable explanations for what they said. There's nothing in there about not enough British people - only about too many foreigners (whom he can tell by looking at them).

lbrito 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That is always the case with this kind of rant. People want to have the cake and eat it too.

jjgreen 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Judge for yourself: https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64 (a web search on "Tommy Robinson" would help with context).

lbrito 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Having read stuff from DHH for a long time, this does not surprise me in the least. It just feels like he picked the right time, zeitgeist-wise, to fully come out of the closet.

I distinctly remember a specific Twitter comment, maybe 7ish years ago, that solidified my view on DHH as a person. It was a thread about remote work. Someone from South America commented trying to be nice to David, saying something like "you should work remotely from Chile, it has a great Ruby community" etc, to which his response was "I've no interest in living in a 3rd world country".

Notch-esque politics aside, that was mean-spirited, inconsiderate behavior which should not be applauded. From that day I strongly sensed that was who he truly was.

bhouston 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

DHH is on Shopify's board now:

https://www.shopify.com/news/david-heinemeier-hansson-board

Shopify's support for DHH's world view makes sense. Shopify's executive team has been right-wing for a while now:

https://pressprogress.ca/shopify-executives-right-wing-media...

https://disconnect.blog/the-conservative-tech-alliance-is-co...

basisword 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

He's really gone off the deep end and evidently knows fuck all about London or the patriotic march he's discussing.

msie 7 hours ago | parent [-]

He's made comments supporting the Trucker protest in Canada and he knew fuck all about it too.

LightBug1 3 hours ago | parent [-]

There's seems to be a trend of knowing fuck all ... except about Ruby on Rails.

Sounds like DHH has finally realised he has enough fuck you money. And that is the truest test of character you can ever have.

Elon Musk failed. DHH failed. ... failed. Etc.

rs_rs_rs_rs_rs 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Are you sure you posted the right article? There's nothing about Ruby or RubyGems in it.

vidarh 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There is, however, a whole lot that says a lot about the character of DHH in it, such as by repeating rhetoric of the UK's racist far-right.

bakugo 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

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philipwhiuk 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon is openly racist and definitely far-right.

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croes 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Maybe the problem is the native Brits. Because the link he posted shows that the third of London he calls Native British is just White British.

Do you think non-white can’t be native British. Is Idris Elba not native British?

After hie many generations are you native British or is it impossible if you are not white?

This isn’t about mass immigration, it’s just about immigration as such.

That’s far-right.

prmoustache 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

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bakugo 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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DrProtic 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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jjgreen 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Londinium was founded by foreigners; bloody Italians coming over here and establishing our capital, mutter mutter ...

madeofpalk 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

DHH has not spoken about the problems caused by mass migration. Just lamenting the fact that a country is apparently less white than it used to be.

He also doesn't live here. What does he know about London?

bakugo 7 hours ago | parent [-]

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prmoustache 7 hours ago | parent [-]

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bakugo 6 hours ago | parent [-]

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prmoustache 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

british is not a color and no color is british apart maybe british racing green.

croes 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You are mixing White/Non-White with British/Non-British

DrProtic 5 hours ago | parent [-]

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madeofpalk 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The question was "Why was "platforming" DHH bad?". Some people disagree with the views represented in that linked blog post, and do not wish to sponsor events that showcase him.

Personally, I think DHH is a troll and would never be interested in sponsoring, or attending, an event that involved him.

notwhereyouare 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

David Heinemeier Hansson, also known by his initials DHH, is a Danish programmer, writer, entrepreneur, and racing driver. He is the creator of Ruby on Rails, a web framework written in Ruby.[1]

ecshafer 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What is the issue? He liked the nationalistic display of a march in England?

aduty 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That is the gist of it.

fwip 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Please try to argue in good faith.

doublerabbit 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> He liked the nationalistic display of a march in England?

Replace "nationalistic" with "fascist". That's the issue.

AlexandrB 6 hours ago | parent [-]

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stevenbedrick 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Umberto Eco gave a pretty well-reasoned definition of Facism, and I think it's pretty straightforward to apply this definition to the situation in London (and DHH's commentary thereon): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur-Fascism

doublerabbit 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Just look up Tommy Robinson.

> He was a member of the British National Party (BNP), a British fascist political party. [1]

A march in honor of Tommy Robinson, who is a fascist. Not sure what else to tell you.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson

mvdtnz 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Post the rest of the sentence,

> He was a member of the British National Party (BNP), a British fascist political party, from 2004 to 2005.

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hamandcheese 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I too am wondering this.

sussmannbaka 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

He’s been posting increasingly inflammatory articles, for the most recent round refer to https://tekin.co.uk/2025/09/the-ruby-community-has-a-dhh-pro...

DrProtic 7 hours ago | parent [-]

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sebastianz 6 hours ago | parent [-]

It's the third link on that page, in the first sentence.

icelancer 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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basisword 7 hours ago | parent [-]

People are free to lean left or right. Unfortunately bigotry and racism has been rebranded as simply being right leaning politically. Reading some of his recent articles he's neither left or right - just a bit of a racist bigot.

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bakugo 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

He held the wrong political opinions.

4ndrewl 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

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msie 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

‘very fine people on both sides’ - DJT

AlexandrB 6 hours ago | parent [-]

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-very-fine-people/

This is kind of the problem. People parrot this stuff with no further investigation.

jspash 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Your link doesn't counter GP's comment in any way. The extra conotext is appreciated though.