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| ▲ | amanaplanacanal 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Well yes, thinking people should be treated equally regardless of their sexuality or color of their skin is good, and the opposite is bad. Is that the kind of "very left leaning position" you had in mind? Or something else? |
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| ▲ | poszlem 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | What you described is, of course, a perfectly honest account of the issue, and definitely not a strawman set up just to be knocked down. | | |
| ▲ | amanaplanacanal 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Do you have some idea what they meant by extreme left leaning issues? I'd like to hear your take. | | |
| ▲ | hombre_fatal 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Sure: importing migrants with no end in sight while shutting down any convo over what the limit should be; there is no limit and you're racist if you disagree. And it's not a principled position on open borders nor open migration but instead part of a double standard. These same people probably cheer on the protests in Mexico City against white gringos in Condesa. That's how I'd summarize the far left position. The far right one is probably that migrants are bad. And I suppose the middle position is that there's a problem when immigration rate outpaces cultural assimilation. | | |
| ▲ | amanaplanacanal 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Is unlimited immigration really popular among the far left? Sounds more like a libertarian position to me. After some quick googling I can't find any groups that support that. I did find a poll that shows 64% of Americans support creating some path for undocumented immigrants to get legal status. I'm not sure you could call 64% a far left position though. | | | |
| ▲ | RhythmFox 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | You just happen to hold this 'middle position' I imagine? |
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| ▲ | pebble 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The left-leaning ones usually don't call for the eradication of certain peoples. |
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| ▲ | tremon 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | To be fair, neither do the right-leaning ones; the ones that do have fallen completely on their side. It's just that societal discourse has been purposefully skewed so that the mean lean is 60 degrees to the right, making it very easy for weak individuals to fall over. |
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| ▲ | makeitdouble an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > hen did we decide platforming very left-leaning positions is good, and platforming very right-leaning ones is bad? The same way DHH can have opinions, one-man-companies forking the sponsorship momey can have some too. "We" didn't decide anything, a sponsor company decided to stop sponsoring (with no public commentary), that's all that happened. More to the point, "platforming" is an active operation, I think anyone can decide who they want to promote and why. It's fundamentally different from censoring. |
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| ▲ | madeofpalk 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I disagree with this framing as well. There's nothing wrong with "right-leaning" statements or opinions. DHH can talk all he wants about a desire for smaller governments, opinions on gun control, or conservative fiscal policy. However, people that espouse intolerance of others based on the colour of their skin is just objectively bad. Sometimes there is a right and a wrong side to things. The problem is that some on the political-right seem to have aligned themselves with policy or viewpoints that stand for hatred. |
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| ▲ | basisword 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I think the real issue is framing blatant racism as a 'very right-leaning' opinion. It does a disservice to people who have normal conservative opinions on economic or social issues. We've moved past race as a social issue long ago. It's not a debate that should be had anymore. Racists aren't conservative or right wing - they're just bigots. And to be clear, you can discuss immigration policy without being racist. In the blog post in question DHH gives his support to a convicted criminal, who is also a former member of an explicitly fascist political party and founder of an islamophobic hate group. That's not 'right-leaning'. It's support for a racist criminal. I'm unsure whether DHH is actually a bigot or just completely engulfed in the rhetoric common on Twitter these days. Either way he's a fucking moron pontificating on something which he has no actual experience of. Maybe when the US invades Greenland and starts deporting the Danes from the US he'll discover empathy. |
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| ▲ | type0 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | > Maybe when the US invades Greenland and starts deporting the Danes from the US he'll discover empathy. is he actually US citizen or dual or just Danish? | | |
| ▲ | chuckadams 35 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > is he actually US citizen or dual or just Danish? The question is, does that even matter to the current regime? |
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| ▲ | octernion 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| you think we should platform racism? |
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| ▲ | bhouston 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| I read the DHH post in question: https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64. It is pretty standard anti-immigrant. It feels like it is acknowledging the fact that the populations of Western countries are in a demographic crisis, they are sub-replacement in terms of fertility but instead of fixing that he just wants to ban immigrants. It feels like fixing the fertility issue would solve the root issue. |
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| ▲ | fwip 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | You don't need to carry water for racists and invent more palatable explanations for what they said. There's nothing in there about not enough British people - only about too many foreigners (whom he can tell by looking at them). | |
| ▲ | lbrito 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | That is always the case with this kind of rant. People want to have the cake and eat it too. |
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