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qcnguy 3 hours ago

There's no win here. With this move Disney is saying they do in fact approve of their presenters lying to their audience in order to create hatred of the right, even if someone was just assassinated.

The right has never been a coherent coalition of people with shared goals like the left. This weakens the libertarian faction who want to keep government out of private business and strengthens those who say leftist executives will abuse their institutions without limit to advance leftist agendas if the law doesn't stop them. Expect Republicans to increasingly use the many legal tools at their disposal to punish left wing controlled companies and the part of the right that objects to steadily fall silent, as it becomes clear any high minded principle will just be exploited by the left to encourage more killing.

croes 2 hours ago | parent [-]

>We hit some new lows over the weekend, with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.

>In between the finger pointing there was grieving. On Friday, the White House flew the flags at half-staff, which got some criticism, but on a human level you can see how hard the President is taking this.

Can you show methe lie Kimmel told?

qcnguy 36 minutes ago | parent [-]

That kind of denialism doesn't help, it just empowers the "eye for an eye" faction even more because they see that the left is incapable of self reflection.

The killer is far left. There is plenty of evidence and it's all fully consistent on that matter, even beyond the obvious nature of the act itself. It has been consistent since the first moments.

The right are upset about this! And they're even more upset about the mass celebrations on the left at the successful assassination. It comes on the heels of multiple attempts on Trump, Antifa trying to mass murder ICE agents and many other horrific events that show a sustained pattern of behavior.

When Kimmel claimed the "MAGA gang" (a deliberately insulting term) had "hit new lows", he was making the insane claim that being upset about political assassination is a "low" and "point scoring". And then he went on to deceive his audience. Instead of admitting that the "MAGA gang" were correct from the start, he claims they were "desperately trying" to "characterize" the assassin as on the left.

This phrasing tells the listener that the reason the right had to "desperately try" is because what they were saying was "a new low", weak or untrue, which is why it was a mere "characterization" and not a statement of fact.

It is obviously dishonest. When people defend such dishonesty and claim it's not a lie it reinforces the strong impression being received by hundreds of millions of people that everyone on the left is malicious and potentially dangerous. That's by far the most risky path forward.

People like Kimmel are getting this stuff from social media. It's flooded with people who are denying the truth, even trying to claim he's some sort of MAGA extremist. The author of the top politics Substack, who has over 3.2M Facebook followers and 2.5M subscribers, has told that exact lie. And she hasn't corrected herself either.

Left wing pundits need to be honest with their audience. The killer did it for their beliefs, motivated by their hatreds, encouraged by their celebrations of people like Mangione and Crooks. Instead of taking the high road and being the bearer of bad news, they've doubled down on manipulating their audience.

And now Disney has said that's OK, they approve of that behavior. The left certainly cannot claim to have a problem with misinformation now!

computerthings 20 minutes ago | parent [-]

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